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Old 10-08-2017, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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^^^^ Where's Bada-Bing when we need him ?!?!?
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Just letting the flow of the thread go and spot reading.
He don't have a monopoly on it.


 
Old 10-08-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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Whatever President Trump does is ok by me. When I voted for him, I gave him my approval.
Wait... What? Setting aside this tax plan that is just silly.
 
Old 10-09-2017, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Well we are in our early sixties and just our medical premiums will be over 19,000


And when you reach 65, Medicare will slash your costs by an order of magnitude or more.
 
Old 10-09-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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just hit 65 and made it to medicare and a supplement . i was paying 6k for myself with pretty much a 4k deductible .

now i have medicare at about 1600 a year , a f-plan supplement with 2k deductible for 1116.00 a year and a drug plan for 444.00 a year with 400 deductible .

you can go with hmo advantage plans but they can be pay as you go and differ greatly in what you pay for vs premiums .

nyc is priced way higher than the rest of the country on supplements . an f-plan can run 3800.00 a year for 1 person here. we do much better with the high deductible f-plan , plus they pay for my gym directly and that was costing 480 a year .
 
Old 10-09-2017, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Look at it this way on federal taxes from the poor dependent on government services for their survival. Granted you can't get blood from a rock but why not a chip off the old rock in lieu of federal tax payments?

Sorta like a takers draft.
Ok, then how about a "maker draft", a baseline tax for ALL businesses who made a profit? Or maybe it's only the poor who have to suffer just a little bit more to satisfy you?
 
Old 10-09-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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When corporations pay tax it comes from customers, employees, and shareholders. A case can be made that it is not a transparent (or productive) way to raise revenue.
Except that there is no historical evidence of corporations lowering prices or increasing wages when their tax burden is reduced, is there?
 
Old 10-09-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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OMG, I can't believe somebody actually took the time to type that entire Fairy Tale...Is that how you see this scenario ??
For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who don't understand, no explanation is possible.
 
Old 10-09-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Tax rates for the high-income/high net worth in this country have never been lower...
And tax dollars paid to the Treasury by high-income earners have never been higher. The objective is funding the country even though many social justice warriors confuse that with redistribution.
 
Old 10-09-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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Ok, then how about a "maker draft", a baseline tax for ALL businesses who made a profit? Or maybe it's only the poor who have to suffer just a little bit more to satisfy you?
Do the poor pay dividends or if owned increase ownership value?
 
Old 10-09-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Do the poor pay dividends or if owned increase ownership value?
So you are suggesting that corporations should not pay tax because OMG they "give" people dividends? In the first place you should look at the distribution of people in this Country who actually own stock and have the potential to receive dividends.
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Indeed, nearly all of the stock ownership in the U.S. is concentrated among the richest. According to Wolff's data, the top 20 percent of Americans owned 92 percent of the stocks in 2013. Put another way: Eighty percent of Americans together owned just 8 percent of all stocks.Dow Hits 21,000, Trump Touts Stock Market Success, But Many Left Out Of Gains : NPR
So basically dividends are a transfer of wealth from the rich to the rich and to the very top tier of the middle class.
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