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Old 10-11-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Supposedly going to tell them tax package will increase their income by 4k. Not sure he was going to specify over what time period
and I bet he won't mention that, or he will make the claim and then make poor Sarah Huckabee Sanders try to walk it back

 
Old 10-11-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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and I bet he won't mention that, or he will make the claim and then make poor Sarah Huckabee Sanders try to walk it back
Yeah since it is based on numbers not yet written down and corporate behavior that probably won't happen. One of the underlying assumptions is that corporations will use profits and repatriated money to increase salaries and not dividends and share holder value. With so many activist investors on board of directors it could be hard not to use money to increase the wealth of shareholders who own the company.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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The middle class overwhelmingly will benefit and will have more money to spend to grow jobs and the economy.
Really? Amazing to hear because haven't seen any proof of that in any real reports on it.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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The way the Orange Man is alienating key Republicans in Congress, his Tax Proposal has little chance of getting even a simple majority. It's fascinating to watch this lack of political skills on display.

He has clinched the title of Worst Prez Ever, and Warren G Harding need never again worry about that sobriquet.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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How do you propose the govt. go and abduct the poor's first born?

I think the more common name for that sort of thing is SLAVERY.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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How do you propose the govt. go and abduct the poor's first born?
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I think the more common name for that sort of thing is SLAVERY.
Exactly. The owner of that idea could not see the irony.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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Exactly. The owner of that idea could not see the irony.
Yes I clearly saw the irony as I remember the selective service draft which subjected the very same folks to having their kids taken for military service unless they had the finances to create alternatives. Growing up in a metropolitan area it was well documented that the area selective service board was drawing its conscripts more from some areas and much less from others. Much of it economic. Even with our volunteer army it falls on the poor.

Think Afghanistan not going away, Iraq, Syria and the war on terror not going away. Disaster relief who knows. Add the potential for the Korean Peninsula and Iran and do you really believe there is no way the draft wouldn’t come back and yes that is taking your child if they call their name. The alternative is jaifl for the kid

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Old 10-12-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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After last night's performance, I don't think we'll have to worry about this half-baked Tax Proposal being enacted. Hannity offered his softball questions and the Chief replied with the canned response --
" Trump argued that corporate tax changes would benefit ordinary Americans, delivering as much as $4,000 per household. “You’re going to have so much money to spend,” he told the crowd."

Upon further review, this is Fake News --

"The Tax Policy Center estimates a Corporate Tax Cut would result in $4,000 more for American workers over an eight-year period.
But experts doubted such a windfall would flow to workers and said the GOP’s planned changes to individual income tax rates would largely benefit the wealthiest Americans."

And so the non-college educated, middle America crowd sold their collective souls for what amounts to $500 bucks a year.

Hannity, instead of pressing for details, could only offer more knob-slobbering softballs. He never questioned the Elimination of the Personal Exemption, nor the make-up of the new phantom Tax Brackets.
Wipe your chin there Sean....you got a little on you.

The Republican edge in the Senate is razor thin.....and the recent tweet-storms have turned many of them sour on this pretender to the throne. In the House, Paul Ryan has proven inept at corralling his colleagues even for the easy votes -- he had 7 years to develop the fixes for O'care, and at crunch-time he came up short. The fiscal Conservatives in Congress look at this Tax Proposal's additional deficit of $2 Trillion (that's a T), and will not follow the "Tweeter-leader" over a Fiscal Cliff.

When it comes to Tax Cuts, the Bush Family takes the Blue Ribbon. Take your pick, either Poppy or George W really knew how to polish a turd before presenting it to the unwashed masses.

Exhibit A has to be W's impressive trio. Three times he came to bat and 3 times he lined a triple off the right-field wall. The very titles of the legislation should leave us awestruck. Names like "Economic Growth and Tax Relief" in 2001, "Jobs and Growth Tax Relief" in 2003, and who could ever forget the immortal "American Taxpayer Relief Act" in 2012. Now that is a string of hits that Lennon & McCartney would be proud of.

This naturally raises the question -- Why does every Republican give Tax Relief to the Wealthiest of Americans ??

Last edited by FiveLoaves; 10-12-2017 at 10:02 AM.. Reason: Bolded the key phrase
 
Old 10-12-2017, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... He has clinched the title of Worst Prez Ever, and Warren G Harding need never again worry about that sobriquet.
I thought that title was a tie between Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I thought that title was a tie between Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter.

You're kidding, right ?? Those two are not even in the bottom Quartile. You have to wade thru all the dreck that is Buchanon, Johnson, Pierce and Millard Fillmore before you get to your two nominees.
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