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Old 10-13-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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Not counting possible accidents or childhood illnesses or infections ... I would be dead once at now age 64.

And not from cancer ... but from something usually totally innocuous, an ulcer very small but by chance in a deadly location.

So unusual that the major medical center was surprised to encounter a similar case a year later.

Push back the scar tissue thru endoscopy and voila - food again works!

In the good old days lots of folks died from random crap.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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The average age of the Founding fathers at death was little different than the average age of when the last 5-6 Presidents died. Something to think about.....and you can't say it was because they were wealthy and had excellent medical care by living next door to a world class medical center, LOL!

https://www.populationeducation.org/...ife-expectancy

"Sometimes, when we tell kids “the life expectancy was 48 in 1900,” they think that means that at age 48, people were old and decrepit instead of understanding that 48 was an average, and the high child mortality brought that average way down. Consider the example of our Founding Fathers. When they were born in the 18th century, life expectancy was below 40. Yet the average lifespan of the 56 signers to the Declaration of Independence was 66 years, and a quarter of them (including Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Ben Franklin) lived to 80 or older."
Childbirth was the big killer of Women until just the last 75 years or so. Farm accidents were the big cause of early deaths with my ancestors going back to the Revolution. My Maternal Grandfather (1858-1946) died from heatstroke at 88 but his 7 brothers all died young from various farm related incidents. The Women on both sides of my family usually make it to late 90s. My Mother turns 90 in February next year. I am 71 but I have my fingers crossed to make 72. Heck I had doubts about making it to 21 so every day since has been a gift from God. If he wants me I am ready but I like it here and I can wait LOL.
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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Oh, I thought it was obvious I was talking about medical intervention.


My examples:


Appendicitis


2 serious kidney stones that went septic


Unable to breathe due to stomach not emptying


Gangrene from a sea lion bite


Life-threatening cellulitis from foot infection


You know, that kind of stuff. And yes, I've long been aware that life-expectancy charts are way skewed due to infant mortality and death of young children. Because there were plenty of seniors in their 70's and 80's back then too, as someone pointed out.
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Childbirth was the big killer of Women until just the last 75 years or so. Farm accidents were the big cause of early deaths with my ancestors going back to the Revolution. My Maternal Grandfather (1858-1946) died from heatstroke at 88 but his 7 brothers all died young from various farm related incidents. The Women on both sides of my family usually make it to late 90s. My Mother turns 90 in February next year. I am 71 but I have my fingers crossed to make 72. Heck I had doubts about making it to 21 so every day since has been a gift from God. If he wants me I am ready but I like it here and I can wait LOL.

Yes, childbirth and farm accidents, indeed. Maybe today, most of them could be saved though?
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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Since I grew up in a "developing country" in the 1960s, I did have two types of measles, chickenpox and mumps the natural way (without any complications though), but polio, diphtheria-pertussis and tetanus vaccines (and the fact that smallpox is extinct) surely must have saved my life many times. Before modern medicine, only about 10% of babies lived to their 4th birthday, dying either at birth or in infancy, of from later childhood diseases. Since I did not have kids, I would not have been among the 2/3 of all women that died during or after one of their childbirths (but then, there was no real contraception 150 years ago, so I would have probably had unwanted pregnancies, and statistically more likely than not died in childbirth).

On the other hand yet, all of my own near-death situations in the 57.5 years that I have lived, have been in motor vehicles, so actually maybe I would have been less likely to have died 150 years ago? -
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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I had scarlet fever when I was 4. It was caught in the early stages when it was just a rash and treated with a course of antibiotics.
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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I had scarlet fever when I was 4. It was caught in the early stages when it was just a rash and treated with a course of antibiotics.

Yes. You would have been dead. Where would we be without antibiotics? I have taken them countless times. That may be in our future....
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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Yes, childbirth and farm accidents, indeed. Maybe today, most of them could be saved though?
Yes as far as childbirth and even with MOST farm accidents IF the accident victim can be taken to a Doctor/Hospital quickly. Many times in tractor/equipment accidents the farmer may be trapped and dies before help arrives. IIRC farming is in the top four or five professions with the highest deaths.
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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This was back in the day before MRSA and other antibiotic resistant bugs. After getting through childhood with measles, chicken pox, mumps, and mononucleosis, I haven't taken a single one in 20 years.

They are definitely being overused. I keep hearing people talk about how the doctor gave them antibiotics for a chest cold and shake my head. It's gotten to the point where new drugs are going to have to be invented to combat common diseases that used to treatable.

Bacteria, viruses and other pathogens almost seem like they're in an arms race with humanity to see how many of us they can take. Technology has saved millions of lives over the last 100 years, now we're seeing pathogens evolve along with us, becoming more even more virulent.
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Old 10-14-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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I used to have chronic sinus infections. If it weren't for antibiotics I probably would be dead. I now take regular doses of vitamin C to help improve my ability to fight off infections, and I don't have that problem near as much.

My concern now is that I might live too long and end up suffering from arthritis for far too long.
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