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Old 03-03-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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A word about SciFi fandom. Years ago when I lived in Portland I was very much into it. At one time I was
head of fan club tables at WesterCon, a large fan run convention. I helped with our local OryCon in the same manner and traveled across the country to various media cons. I eventually lost interest but still have many friends who are into it.

Here in the Cleveland area where I now live I have seen fandom very strongly represented. There is even a talking Dalek that attends our little Christmas parade in my suburb of Lakewood every year. If I ever wanted to get back into fandom I could easily. But I never lived next door to it and I donít have to now. Still, I wonder if I put up some flyers saying I was going to start a club within my apartment complex for sci-fi fans, I wonder if anyone would show up. I did have an interesting discussion with a member in my story writing group the other day about the movie ďThe Day The Earth Stood Still.Ē
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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So one of our newer residents at my senior complex loves to party. She asked permission to use one of the large community rooms to hold a sock hop on Saturday night and got it. She made flyers and posted them in the elevators and bulletin boards. The large room has a ‘fridge, microwave and stove. People were asked to BYO snacks. The party was a huge success.

More were held with different themes. People brought music to play. These formerly professional musicians are very talented residents who often play just to entertain in our rotunda in the lower level of the building where the senior center is located. Sometimes they perform in our auditorium. They performed some great music in New Year’s Eve. They usually do hourly-plus weekly recitals in the evenings.

They still supply us with bingo and games and such because the majority of residents like those things. But there are alternatives and for those of us who want them if we gather enough kindred spirits we can usually get them. Like our drum circle that recently started up and a women’s self defense class for seniors.

Our buildings used to be part privately owned, part HUD owned. Then HUD took over completely. We lost a great deal of funding for our senior center and lost some great senior center directors. So “the kids” took matters into their own hands. Many of our activities such as those I mentioned we have created ourselves with the support of the administration. It gives them less to do and keeps us busy. Win-win.
That was an awesome idea. They had a Friday sock hop every week in my jr high. Everyone went to it. Most never bothered with dancing *with* someone. For those who didn't behave or maybe failed an exam, they couldn't go. But it was a great way to just have everyone have fun. I can see the same dancers having a blast still.

I actually like the idea of people who live there coming up with ideas about the 'events' they will be attending since they know more than someone in an office what they'd enjoy. I hope it becomes more than a one time celebration.

Maybe a movie night in cosutme. Something like Star Wars or a comics inspired movie. It's especially fun when its something like the first Star Wars where people know the lines and can quote them with the actors. Maybe someone could do a survey of residents for suggestions of what they would really enjoy too.
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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That was an awesome idea. They had a Friday sock hop every week in my jr high. Everyone went to it. Most never bothered with dancing *with* someone. For those who didn't behave or maybe failed an exam, they couldn't go. But it was a great way to just have everyone have fun. I can see the same dancers having a blast still.

I actually like the idea of people who live there coming up with ideas about the 'events' they will be attending since they know more than someone in an office what they'd enjoy. I hope it becomes more than a one time celebration.

Maybe a movie night in cosutme. Something like Star Wars or a comics inspired movie. It's especially fun when its something like the first Star Wars where people know the lines and can quote them with the actors. Maybe someone could do a survey of residents for suggestions of what they would really enjoy too.
There you go. It’s worth a try. I’m not saying my place is utopia. I just don’t want people to think that all 55+ residences are alike. Mine does have a majority of sponsored bingo, goofy games and trips to casinos. There are snobby cliques too. Some people move in and last only a few months before they decide it’s not for them.

But then there are those who take advantage of a few other things offered they like or gather those with similar interests to form their own groups. One thing I did while checking out senior apartments was to check out activities offered. I found two I liked at the place where I’m living now.

I asked if tenants were allowed permission and space to start their own activities. Not all places said yes. For those that did the projects were subject to approval of course.

I know someone who lives in a nice senior residence that will allow her to have potlucks and social gatherings and whatever but the other tenants are just not interested. Then I suppose there are those places that will allow only those activities they offer.

What I have learned is when you reach a certain age you if you go to senior centers and residential homes you are going to encounter the ubiquitous bingo, cards and casino trips. Some people love them some despise them. When checking out a senior residence probably the first thing they will tell you when listing activities is the Big Three. If these don’t appeal to you look further, often that may not be all there is.

If someone doesn’t like all that’s offered and they still want to move to that residence or join that SC it’s up to them to see if they can make a change as long as others are amenable. If not, it is they who are in the wrong place and not the other people already living there.

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Old 03-04-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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I don't understand what you're saying at all.

So the Social Worker educated you on some social activities available to you, in conjunction with your NEED to avail yourself to government paid services, and you're indignant?

It's not a requirement that you attend anything social and they wouldn't have the slightest idea if you did or didn't.

It also sounds like an exaggeration. I don't see how a follow up question about if I decided to pursue any of those suggestions is "bugging me".

I find it funny that everyone complains that "there is no safety net", or "older people don't have anyone looking out for them" or "there's no-one to speak for older seniors in need"....then when a Social Worker tries they get accused of ....something....not even sure what you're accusing them of, to be honest.

I guess I'm just not artistic, off the wall, with enough of a different view of the world.
If she wished to tell me about it, she could have called. I had a perfectly good phone. And she continued to call early when I'd told her I'd be asleep. I was already approved for disability and they were waiting for all the paperwork to arrive and be processed. She thought I should go out more. But I was very happy just being able to not have to go out. Some people like it, I am one of those who gets drained. And when it was hot, I'd go wander about in Walmart to cool off and get dinner.

We aren't all the same, no matter how much of an annoyance someone acts like.

She finally had to give up. I didn't enjoy their 'activities'. I lived near a theater. If I wanted an outing, I'd go see a movie by myself.

She had some other clients there and she'd finally figured out that I just don't do morning.

I did call her when I'd set up things to move. She had to agree that I'd be happier in my own place. And the apartment was getting full of druggies. One, a neighbor, stole my laptop and smashed it when the password wouldn't let him use it. She agreed it was time to go. And it was all I wanted.

The apartment was supposed to be MY home, and by my defination in MY home I decide if I want to get up early or sleep, and what is interesting/fun/something I enjoy to do. And the waiting for the bus more time than in their 'center' was even more annoying. And it was cold catching the bus when I could have been toasty warm inside.

We are all different and what is fun/satisfying/rewarding to one is an annoying unfun day to others. I'm much more comfortable with my stuff, pets, projects and most of all my own space. The worker figured this out and was happy when I said I was moving out of state, with a small house.
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Old 03-04-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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There you go. Itís worth a try. Iím not saying my place is utopia. I just donít want people to think that all 55+ residences are alike. Mine does have a majority of sponsored bingo, goofy games and trips to casinos. There are snobby cliques too. Some people move in and last only a few months before they decide itís not for them.

But then there are those who take advantage of a few other things offered they like or gather those with similar interests to form their own groups. One thing I did while checking out senior apartments was to check out activities offered. I found two I liked at the place where Iím living now.

I asked if tenants were allowed permission and space to start their own activities. Not all places said yes. For those that did the projects were subject to approval of course.

I know someone who lives in a nice senior residence that will allow her to have potlucks and social gatherings and whatever but the other tenants are just not interested. Then I suppose there are those places that will allow only those activities they offer.

What I have learned is when you reach a certain age you if you go to senior centers and residential homes you are going to encounter the ubiquitous bingo, cards and casino trips. Some people love them some despise them. When checking out a senior residence probably the first thing they will tell you when listing activities is the Big Three. If these donít appeal to you look further, often that may not be all there is.

If someone doesnít like all thatís offered and they still want to move to that residence or join that SC itís up to them to see if they can make a change as long as others are amenable. If not, it is they who are in the wrong place and not the other people already living there.
I think those are the old reliables, and you can take a trip and get away even if you don't play at the casino. My sil would go to one around here about once a month. If they spent ten dollars in the game section, they got their choice of dinners, all better than a normal ten dollars, so it was food and fun. She and her son were good about not spending the rest of the money. She said some of them weren't so good about that.

When my grandmother was alive, she went on a monthly trip to a 'gaming adventure' with slot machines. She brought x amount of money and collected her winnings and usually ended up with more, and she loved the trip. She and her sister would go to one of the slot machine game places and enjoy the bus ride out of town and back too.

My idea of a great day would be a big really good thrift store, especially with lots of cool boots... one can never have enough pairs.
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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A word about SciFi fandom. Years ago when I lived in Portland I was very much into it. At one time I was
head of fan club tables at WesterCon, a large fan run convention. I helped with our local OryCon in the same manner and traveled across the country to various media cons. I eventually lost interest but still have many friends who are into it.

Here in the Cleveland area where I now live I have seen fandom very strongly represented. There is even a talking Dalek that attends our little Christmas parade in my suburb of Lakewood every year. If I ever wanted to get back into fandom I could easily. But I never lived next door to it and I donít have to now. Still, I wonder if I put up some flyers saying I was going to start a club within my apartment complex for sci-fi fans, I wonder if anyone would show up. I did have an interesting discussion with a member in my story writing group the other day about the movie ďThe Day The Earth Stood Still.Ē
Fandom is something very important to me, even if I haven't been to anything lately. Its not just the gatherings. Its the people. They were great, and seemed so much more like me than not, unusual for my new normal. It was really a joy seeing we seem to be everywhere, and get along well.

I'm a member of LASFS, the oldest skiffy (science fiction) club in the world. It started with a small group of enthusiasts in the 1920s. It has never missed having a meeting since the 1920s. Lasfs is one thing I'd move back to Los Angeles for, that and Loscon, the yearly convention they put on. They have plenty of media, and usually they also hold a room party, but its still very much fan run and for fans. That's the kind I like. I'm not waiting in line for two hours to see a presentation about a new movie/tv show when I could be showing off my hall costume and seeking out intersting conversations.

And I'll filk all night if it lasts. "Filk" is a form of folk music, with scifi, futuristic, dragon, book themes. There's a lot of it on You tube. I can sit there and listen until if I don't get to my room and in bed now I won't. I've even written a few songs.

It's true, if you go to play and be part of this other reality, fan based conventions are much more fun than the commercial ones there to push their movies. One of my favorite times is late when people are tired but not willing to quit yet and that feeling of REALLY belonging that's so strong, and regret you have to pack up and go home.

I've been to a few worldcons, and will never forget them. But I like the regional type like Westercons are very much fun for everyone, the old fan since forever and the new neos. And they're big enough there's a lot of stuff going on. They also have a wonderful costume competition. I still have all my outfits. One time a group of us decided to go out for dinner and went in hall costume. We had someone go visit a late night party and buy a membership the next day.

I have tended to skip the big and comercialized cons for the smaller ones where you get to really enjoy yourself but its not too much. For someone new, I think they are great too, since its more about people playing and having fun over being surrounded by movies and media.

The thing is, since I found fandom, I've gone when I could but I think I still live in this world which isn't quite all defined and need to put more fandom in my life again. I'd find a way if someone around here wanted to start something, but I haven't met anyone who seems likely. I think before its too late I will find it. There's a nice convention here yearly in OKC and a club, and the thing I remember was first meeting them it didn't seem at all like I was half a country away from socal at all.

My ideal would be a retirement sort of housing which was by nature fannish and its activities designed around fannish stuff. It would be something I'd give up a few things to have, no doubts at all.

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Old 03-04-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Recently one of our activities directors asked me if I would like to join the arts workshop since she saw me in their room chatting with sone of the people there. I told her no, actually I was giving a woman there advice about her printer. She just happen to be there working on an art project at the time. So I knew where to find her.

I pointed out I couldnít draw a lick and didnít want to learn. The activities person said thatís okay. Thereís no teacher, no leader, no real formal projects unless people decide they want to work together on something. They can get supplies from the room, whatever they need. Some people just come and color in coloring books. I can do that. I liked to do that when I was a kid. And the people in the group are nice.

My kind of group. Nobody tells you what to do.
That's very cool. Its the kind of thing which helps keep you full of ideas too. They actually do adult coloring books which are really quite beautiful. but when you can take some stuff and stare at it and then get this idea of what to do with it its doing its job.

I save odds and ends. They just go in a box, and I'll pick one up and just see what it could be. You just wait until it tells you what its for. And odd things which could go on a necklace or earring or so on I have a jar. And when I first looked at the house I saw the wood floor, in some need but STILL a wood floor....

I also find that I like to make things which are practical using odds and ends and it gives this neat vibe to an area.
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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If this is independent living I am very surprised they wouldíve presumed to tell you how to arrange your apartment. I wouldnít like that either. In fact the only time I have ever even heard of that happening is when a neighbor cane home from rehab after having had both knees replaced and had to have her apartment rearranged so she wouldnít trip over the clutter she was used to living in.

Since you would have to take a bus anyway, are there any places around you where you can go for your art work projects or have you already checked that out?
They claimed the yarn storage was 'messy'. If I spend three hours looking for the perfect matching colors, I am NOT going to stuff it back in the storage area, just a box which sits there for the project. All the woman could understand was 'order'. I also made sure a project, yarn and partially finished heap of crocheting was laying near.

There really weren't. The social meeting place I'd been to. I think a lot of people came for free food. They had a reasonably priced lunch and most left when it was done. There is just something about a place with stacks of stuff, some tools, and a variety of just 'stuff' which you can't plan out. It just fits or doesn't.

When you see one of those big rooms with odds and ends laying all over I would SO wish I could get to sort through and see what is there. Oh yeah.... What would make it better is someone who sees them too.

I bought myself a couple small power saws and soon will be pulling them out again for cutting the wood for another shelf, this one for the kitchen, which lacks shelves and any other kind of storage. It's interesting that so many people assume it must belong to a *man*. But its my *** saw and its FUN. I think of my Dad when I get them out and he's smiling. He always explained what he was doing when he made things and I guess it stuck.
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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runswithscissors,

I was mentally doing the (age) math when I saw the huge photo album of 1920s stars that management bought for the 90+ group here.

I commented to another (younger) resident about it; she said, "One or two people here are 91".

I tell hubby it's like "talking to myself".

There was a big to-do this summer; besides the movie star photo album, management hired a photographer to take pictures of just residents that were 90.

When someone here turns 90 (and other birthdays thereafter) they have in common that they keep talking about it after the birthday celebration time. One lady said told me that she was ready to "leave now". People just looked on. Most of them make it seem like a major accomplishment (the age). I'm never sure what to say to them in response, either way.

For medical reasons I'm surprised I just got my Medicare card the other day. I almost didn't make it out alive at birth and then some medical complications as a child made things tentative. Because of these things, I probably should make my birthdays an on-going year-long celebration and talk about them to everyone every chance I get, but I don't.

I hear about what people "used to do" (work) but don't now. I made suggestions (since they asked) but nothing ever changes.

Saturday we just had some new "entertainment" here (grammar-school aged kids volunteering to sing and dance).

The 82 y/o woman that puts on the shows/skits here kept suggesting that I "go in and see the show" while I had passed by to pick up our mail. I said I wasn't interested and that should have done it. But she kept on. I try not to be rude, but I feel it's gonna happen.

I did spend time talking to 4 other people later on in the hallway and our conversation was in a totally different direction/topic. I realized later it seems to go differently when I'm conversing with people in my age group. I also didn't have to yell or keep repeating myself (my throat is not liking it).

Someone said yesterday that the building/owner has nothing to do with HUD anymore at all. So that might explain the rent increases.

There were no rental offerings in the Sunday paper, AT ALL. This is the worst it's been since we've started scoping places out. Not sure why; it's spring.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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I was mentally doing the (age) math when I saw the huge photo album of 1920s stars that management bought for the 90+ group here.

I commented to another (younger) resident about it; she said, "One or two people here are 91".

I tell hubby it's like "talking to myself".

There was a big to-do this summer; besides the movie star photo album, management hired a photographer to take pictures of just residents that were 90.

When someone here turns 90 (and other birthdays thereafter) they have in common that they keep talking about it after the birthday celebration time. One lady said told me that she was ready to "leave now". People just looked on. Most of them make it seem like a major accomplishment (the age). I'm never sure what to say to them in response, either way.

For medical reasons I'm surprised I just got my Medicare card the other day. I almost didn't make it out alive at birth and then some medical complications as a child made things tentative. Because of these things, I probably should make my birthdays an on-going year-long celebration and talk about them to everyone every chance I get, but I don't.

I hear about what people "used to do" (work) but don't now. I made suggestions (since they asked) but nothing ever changes.

Saturday we just had some new "entertainment" here (grammar-school aged kids volunteering to sing and dance).

The 82 y/o woman that puts on the shows/skits here kept suggesting that I "go in and see the show" while I had passed by to pick up our mail. I said I wasn't interested and that should have done it. But she kept on. I try not to be rude, but I feel it's gonna happen.

I did spend time talking to 4 other people later on in the hallway and our conversation was in a totally different direction/topic. I realized later it seems to go differently when I'm conversing with people in my age group. I also didn't have to yell or keep repeating myself (my throat is not liking it).

Someone said yesterday that the building/owner has nothing to do with HUD anymore at all. So that might explain the rent increases.

There were no rental offerings in the Sunday paper, AT ALL. This is the worst it's been since we've started scoping places out. Not sure why; it's spring.
The paper? I'm your age and I wouldn't be looking in the paper. There are many, many websites dedicated to help you find a new apartment complex that won't be filled to the gills with doddering old people to complain about. Visit more than once and look more carefully this time. I'm sure you don't want it to be filled with young children or college students to complain about either.

We get it. You're in the wrong place. It doesn't sound like you and the husband have to be living in "the home" at this point. Let the people that are happy with their situation be happy with it and try harder to find another place to live where the residents and activities, if any, match your desires better.

There's nothing else to do but move.
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