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Old 01-29-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I think a good tip for the flu or anything that risks dehydration is to supplement water with pedialyte. Alternatively gatorade. One thing I heard that can happen with dehydration is that when your electrolytes get out of whack it can affect your heart and that is sometimes what causes the flu to be serious.
Yeah I guess was passed the just water thing. The fever really hits fast. I donít usually drink anything but water or tea so no Gatorade or pedialyte. Might just keep something like that on hand from now on. Good idea.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Electrolyte idea is a good one. I always have all the ingredients in the house, including a canister of the Himalayan salt. Lemon juice/citrus, honey, salt, water.

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Second thing I head for after the Sambucus when I feel something coming on is the Bragg's. Mix it with water, or put it in green tea w/honey or maple syrup.
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Since I live alone I've gotten a little worried about all I've been reading about the flu. What is it exactly that people are dying of? High temps? Or lung congestion? If it's high temps, I've been wondering if it helps to reduce fever by cooling down the body by going outside in the snow, or by using ice packs?


I have read that the flu is turning into untreated pneumonia and after a relatively quick time of severe untreated pneumonia the organs start to fail leading to sepsis -- attacking all the organs. I believe the vast majority of children and elderly who have died actually died of sepsis. They say if you have ANY difficulty breathing with this flu you should get to the hospital -- IV antibiotics are what will save you. Another child just died in VA from the flu. Absolutely tragic.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I have read that the flu is turning into untreated pneumonia and after a relatively quick time of severe untreated pneumonia the organs start to fail leading to sepsis -- attacking all the organs. I believe the vast majority of children and elderly who have died actually died of sepsis. They say if you have ANY difficulty breathing with this flu you should get to the hospital -- IV antibiotics are what will save you. Another child just died in VA from the flu. Absolutely tragic.
That is definitely a school of though. On my floor of the hospital, every room was taken up with a flu patient in various stages. Every doctor, nurse, technician even housekeeping had theories.

In my case, the minute I walked into Urgent Care there was no doubt I would be going into the hospital because of my lung condition. For me a cold can and has turned into pneumonia pretty much similar to reasons you have described not sepsis but complications arising from a pre-existing condition.

The culprit is an immune system that is constantly overworking itself. I was told I am more prone to catch the bug by breathing it in than by touching contaminated surfaces which is the way most people catch it. So normal precautions like vigilant hand washing wonít always help people in my situation.

This leaves lots of variables. What it all boils down to is that if someone feels sick, donít hesitate, go to the nearest medical facility ASAP. They may just send you home with drugs or advice or you may need more. This crazy bug is so unpredictable itís better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Loudon, TN
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My MIL passed away this week from pneumonia, which started out as her usual, annual bout of bronchitis. Because she was 90 and had little strength, she didn't have the strength to clear her lungs. She was also dehydrated and that causes the mucous to become very sticky and even more difficult to cough up. That's the reason they always tell you to drink plenty of fluids when you have a respiratory virus. You need the hydration to thin the mucous so you can expel it.

Flu is a virus, so anti-biotics don't cure it, but the pneumonia can be bacterial, so they use antibiotics for the pneumonia. Unfortunately it can reoccur if you are still not able to clear the lungs. Drink lots of fluids and try to stay mobile. Moving about encourages your lungs to work harder to move the congestion out. Stay warm, but don't just lie there in bed. Get up and walk about the house as much as you can to encourage your lungs to clear.

As far as the shot, I always get it. I feel if it's only partially effective, any thing that reduces my chances of getting it is a good thing. I have had the flu exactly once in my life, 40 years ago. I have an auto-immune disorder so my immune system sometimes goes into over-drive for some things, but not shots. Maybe having an over-driven immune system helps kill the flu virus. I believe in immunizations, but I also know that one size does not fit all. My DH cannot have any vaccine containing a live virus, but killed viruses are okay. So people are different, but for most people the vaccine is a good thing. After this year's epidemic, I hope everyone who can tolerate them will get the shots in the future.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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For those of you who have had the flu.....did you know it was the flu right from the start, or did you think it was a cold...
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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To all: Please bear in mind (esp. since this is the Retirement forum) that we have some startling evidence that the week after being diagnosed with the flu, the risk of a heart attack is greater. Esp. if you are over 65 and have other risk factors for heart disease. The theory is that the inflammatory response to the flu is a major culprit. Please do not ignore any chest pain, jaw pain, arm pain, back pain, sweating, nausea, etc. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...art-attack-too
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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For those of you who have had the flu.....did you know it was the flu right from the start, or did you think it was a cold...
I suspected flu because I had a fever which I never get with a cold. I was right.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I've felt awful this week. I get a bout with bronchitis about every year, but now, it's not that. I don't know if I picked up a mild flu or what (had a flu shot), but I've been weak, sleeping terribly, and had about every symptom you can imagine. Nose runs, then stops up. Achy, then feel fine. Ears are hurting today. I went for a walk at lunch and felt fine, but I'm now completely out of energy. Other than the bronchitis, I almost never get weak like this. According to my Apple Watch, I slept eight hours last night, but had absolutely no deep sleep.

Guess it's another 9:30 bedtime for me.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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To all: Please bear in mind (esp. since this is the Retirement forum) that we have some startling evidence that the week after being diagnosed with the flu, the risk of a heart attack is greater. Esp. if you are over 65 and have other risk factors for heart disease. The theory is that the inflammatory response to the flu is a major culprit. Please do not ignore any chest pain, jaw pain, arm pain, back pain, sweating, nausea, etc. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...art-attack-too
Yup. Got an appointment with a cardiologist on Friday. This miserable flu just keeps on giving.
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