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Old 02-07-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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Just courios,.....
Which circumstance is the most painful:
1/...To pass a Kidney Stone,....or, To have a Gall Stone get lodged in the Bile Duct?
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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I've been told (by more than one doctor) that the three most painful conditions are (in this order):

Kidney Stone
Gout
Childbirth
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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My (late) mother-in-law had 3 children, and also had a kidney stone. She always said the kidney stone was more painful. I had one myself about 30 years ago and it was extreme pain, however I can't compare it to birth (being male) or gall stone since I haven't had one.
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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In others' experience, is it the passing of the kidney stone that is so painful, or just its presence in the kidney?


I've had 3---the pain while IN the kidney was pretty bad. 2 were pulverized by lithotripsy; pieces of one came out and there was a brief moment of excruciating pain, but that was it. The other two just disappeared; never came out. I think my broken ankle was more painful.


Kidless, so can't compare that go-around.
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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According to what several docs told me, it's the passing of the kidney stone that's the most painful. The presence in the kidney may hurt but trying to pass it is excruciating.

A broken bone, like an ankle, is painful but apparently not nearly so painful as passing a kidney stone, gout and childbirth.

There may be exceptions to this rule. Seven years ago I had acute kidney failure which resulted in gout in every joint of my foot for 3 months -- and I also had two babies via natural childbirth (no drugs at all). I found childbirth a bit uncomfortable but not really painful -- in fact, I took my chess board to the hospital and played chess right up until the moment my kids were born.

I know a guy who had gout in one toe and was able to drive himself to the ER. So obviously he wasnt in extreme pain. However, when I had gout everywhere in my foot, I was in agony. I was driven to the ER twice and begged the docs to amputate that foot. I have a high tolerance for pain but I was serious when I asked them to just cut the foot off. (The drugs they gave me, both for gout and for pain, didnt work because the cause was acute kidney failure.)
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Old 02-08-2018, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Loudon, TN
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The worst pain I've ever had was intense back spasms. In the ER, they gave me two shots of morphine and one of demerol within one hour, and then the pain didn't really stop, I just passed out from the drugs. I'm no wuss either, I broke my femur and never took anything but 800 mg ibuprofen after the surgery. It was painful, but nothing like the back spasms.

Can't address stones, as I've never had either.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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Imagine an earthquake and the concentric pattern of shocks radiating far from the center. That's what a spasm is like. Its your worst crippling charley horse pain on steroids.
I'll always remember gall stone pain as the most excruciating, worse than labor pains. The spasms were non stop and radiated from front to my back. I near went out of my mind.

When I worked as nurse, it seemed to me that patients with a kidney stone suffered the most. The spasms caused by the stone trying to pass down the ureters seemed unbearable; strong narcotic pain medication didn't seem to help much.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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I've been told (by more than one doctor) that the three most painful conditions are (in this order):

Kidney Stone
Gout
Childbirth

Nurse told me the gallstones I had would make child birth seem like a breeze... never had kids though. Never had one in a bile duct, but did have "sludge" back up at a valve which gave me pancreantitis.... that was frickin lovely.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Nurse told me the gallstones I had would make child birth seem like a breeze... never had kids though. Never had one in a bile duct, but did have "sludge" back up at a valve which gave me pancreantitis.... that was frickin lovely.
Shouldn't you move this to a medical forum/thread?
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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Imagine an earthquake and the concentric pattern of shocks radiating far from the center. That's what a spasm is like. Its your worst crippling charley horse pain on steroids.
I'll always remember gall stone pain as the most excruciating, worse than labor pains. The spasms were non stop and radiated from front to my back. I near went out of my mind.

When I worked as nurse, it seemed to me that patients with a kidney stone suffered the most. The spasms caused by the stone trying to pass down the ureters seemed unbearable; strong narcotic pain medication didn't seem to help much.
They gave me Morphine, and I had that same experience. It seemed like the pain was still there, but I didn't care as much.
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