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Old 02-18-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Except for the cost of housing, SW WA State.

Look into Vancouver, Camas, and Washougal.

Housing is expensive here, but we’ve got the other stuff. We are definitely more conservative than Seattle.
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Old 02-18-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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The U.S. has ruined so many places making the car the predominant factor resulting in horrendous nerve-wracking aggravating traffic, resulting in unattractive urban sprawl, destroying neighborhood cohesion, destroying landscapes, making pedestrians the last to ever be considered.

And then there's the rising sea levels on the east coast. And excessive heat too, and getting worse.

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Old 02-18-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Can anyone give me some ideas for retirement areas that tick my boxes?

1. Four seasons;
2. Mild winter (a few snows a few inches at a time is ideal);
3. Not hot or humid summer;
4. Conservative (fiscally AND politically);
5. Reasonably priced housing;
6. Low cost of living;
7. Possible waterfront living available;
8. No weird bugs, snakes or crocs in lakes/rivers, etc.

I'm having a hard time finding places to go that might match this wish list.

Thanks!

EDJ
Might consider using an RV for off-season travel. Travel between a home and a favorite destination place during winter/summer months. I enjoy Custer, S.D. during summer, and possibly Central Texas during winter months. Or N. Idaho then Tuscon area, Ariz.



EDIT:....guess that idea was already discussed.

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There is always the 'snowbird' option. My most recent retirement daydream was an Airstream Basecamp or Bravo with a SUV or pickup. If you have kids, one of their homes can serve as a base for mail, and the town for banking, or you can set something up with a service. I want a drag along with a vehicle as opposed to a self contained RV. Motors become outdated, and the bigger they are the harder they can be to maneuver.

You can live places off-season and switch it up however you like until you find somewhere that you want to make permanent. Heck, if you have never seen the country or all the national parks, you could spend at least the first two years of retirement simply doing that.
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Location: Happy Place
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I find paradise between my ears, typically.
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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For anything with mild winters, you're looking at south or west. If you don't want humidity, then you have to go west. If you want summers that aren't hot, then you're looking at the west coast.

You might want to try the coastal areas of Washington and Oregon. You can find waterfront with ease, housing and the cost of living isn't that expensive, and the summers can be cool and you'll have mild winters. If you want winters with some snow, locate about 500 feet above sea level.

There will be mosquitoes, but no snakes.

There may also be some sparsely populated areas of coastal California that are perfect for cool summers and mild winters, but I doubt any coastal property will be reasonable no matter how secluded you are. However, you won't run into snow or mosquitoes. There may be rattlesnakes, though.

Another place that comes to mind are the areas around Denver down to Colorado Springs. You might also want to think about Flagstaff, AZ. I pretty sure that if you get out of the large cities, most people will be conservative.

Edited to add: Personally, if I found a place that matched my physical descriptions of not too hot and not too cold, I couldn't care less if the area were liberal or conservative. I mean, if I want to live there, then I'm going to live there. I don't feel like I need to get permission from the current residents to move to anywhere in the US. I tend to be rather reclusive anyway and the hobbies I have can be enjoyed without worrying about whether people hold the same views I do. To me, you're just backing yourself into a corner if you are going to associate with only the people who agree with you about everything.

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Old 02-18-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Can anyone give me some ideas for retirement areas that tick my boxes?

1. Four seasons;
2. Mild winter (a few snows a few inches at a time is ideal);
3. Not hot or humid summer;
4. Conservative (fiscally AND politically);
5. Reasonably priced housing;
6. Low cost of living;
7. Possible waterfront living available;
8. No weird bugs, snakes or crocs in lakes/rivers, etc.

I'm having a hard time finding places to go that might match this wish list.

Thanks!

EDJ
Wow. You're easy to please aren't you? So you don't want bugs or snakes. No wonder you are having a hard time. That eliminates pretty much all of the USA lower than about 10,000 feet elevation. No mild winters, much housing, or low cost of living above that.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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1. Four seasons;
2. Mild winter (a few snows a few inches at a time is ideal);
3. Not hot or humid summer;
4. Conservative (fiscally AND politically);
5. Reasonably priced housing;
6. Low cost of living;
7. Possible waterfront living available;
8. No weird bugs, snakes or crocs in lakes/rivers, etc.
Where I live summers aren't hot. Avg July high is 82F, and not humid.
Winters aren't cold. Avg Jan high is 50F. It snows but melts pretty quick.
It's in a pine forest. Mountainous area. 7,000ft. Population ~10k.
No mosquitoes. Pretty well bugless.
There are deer and elk and a few bears running around town. That's about it for weird animals.
Ski resort nearby.
9 golf courses? I lose count.
A few casinos.
Famous horse race track.
Lots of NF and BLM land for camping and exploring.
Lots of tourists on weekends and holidays, but no bad traffic.
Votes ~75% Republican. I don't care about politics. People leave me alone, and that's what I care about.
Median house price was ~$210k last time I looked.

Ticks all your boxes I think, except there is no waterfront. There are a few streams coming out of the mountains and several small lakes and ponds but nothing you could live right next to.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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Mr5150, I think we are in similar boats. You could call me Mr417. I like your idea of course, and that area is PERFECT. Except it's in Gerry Brown's Kalifornia.

ComeCloser and Txfriend, I have a lot of familiarity with NorCal. My parents retired to Redding in 1994 and I've been up there several times a year for days and weeks at a time for the last 24 years. I know it pretty well, everything from Whiskeytown to Palo Cedro. It would be nearly perfect, if it weren't for realignment and props 47 and 57. They created the phenomenal numbers of homeless and drug addicted that are everywhere now. Last time I went out the 44 from Caldwell Park toward the dump out by the airport, there was a guy on the side of the freeway actually putting the needle in his arm like it was nothing.

RunsWithScissors, I like your username. I had a friend/ally on a forum years ago with that username. I don't think you are her though, she was far more welcoming and more tolerant of new arrivals because she was bored with (to her) the same topic coming up again and again. I could afford to live here. You did see the amount of equity I'd pull out of my house, right? I just want to use less of that tied up in house, and more of it for my life's expenses for the next 30-40 years.

Tek_Freek, I am thinking the Tellico area may very well be as close to ideal as I can find.

RodentRaiser and AllisonHB (Huntington Bch?) I'm not entirely bug averse. They are everywhere I just want to be able to venture outside or dine al fresco without requiring a screened-in porch to avoid being eaten alive. I'm fine with the occasional fly (fewer the better), gnat, bees, cicadas, fireflies, blackwidow, etc. I just don't want the Hawaiian centipedes, Assassin bugs, cow killers, or another crazy-a$$ flying bugs.

rruff, I like your idea, I'm going to check that out also, thank you!
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Where I live summers aren't hot.
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Never heard of the place - but thanks for the head's up. I'll be traveling through NM this summer and might take a side trip. Looks inviting.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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Not hardly. I did the same thing. I did the math at age 50 and worked out that I couldn't possibly live in a place with expensive housing and hope to retire there. I couldn't have that much of my net worth tied up in my house and the property taxes from that expensive house would eat me alive when my income dropped. I pulled the plug then. My house is worth 1/3 what my Portsmouth NH house was worth. The property taxes are 25% of what I was paying in Portsmouth, NH. Would I rather have stayed in Portsmouth? Yep. The math didn't work. I'd need triple my age 50 net worth.

Desirable locations in the places with a good job market are all expensive. I know tons of people in metro Boston, NYC tri-state, and DC who liked where they lived but pulled the plug when they retired for the same reason I pulled the plug.

Unless you're really high net worth, everything is a compromise. I made mine.
He said so himself. Literally.

So that puts you both in the same boat, I guess. Your home/existing states made life unaffordable. And this occurs at your voting booth.

Which is why I predicted every state will be turning purple or blue. Blue people chewing through red states LOL.

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I'm currently in So. Cal. and walking distance to the beach. I am a 5 minute drive from world-famous Laguna Beach. I will walk away from my house with almost a mil, but I have to be able to live off whatever I do not purchase a new home with, so that's why I want affordable place to live but still interested in waterfront. Can't afford to stay here in retirement and the state's excessive fees/taxes and high welfare offerings are driving a lot of people out of this h377-hole.
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