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When my mother was 90, she came home from the doctor, and he had prescribed this and treated that and ordered tests for those. Mom barked at him "I'm not sick -- I'm old!"
Do your doctors act like they know the difference, and just let you peacefully settle into your old age, and leave you alone to get used to your decline without false hopes and proimises?
If I'm alive past 85, I will quit going to doctors. What's the point?
I consider what doctors tell me is advice. I don’t have to follow it. I always ask what happens if I don’t, what happens if I do. I also do my own research. The older I get, the less I take anybody’s word for anything.
While I agree that you want your Dr. to treat you as a person and to listen to you. The saying I'm not sick I'm old. Is not always the case.
My husband at about 60 had several problems that one could say, you are just getting old, but in fact he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. I am 65 now and I feel very old, but I have heart disease, diabetes,also Fibromyalgia and some other neurological disease that they have not put a name to yet.
So sometimes you need to let the Drs. do their tests, and sometimes is it not just age.
I've been my own doctor for the last 25 yrs when I started working with supplements....to supplement what my body is depleting...so simple to understand this...and yet many naysayers argue and attack supplements.
Meanwhile hundreds die every year from supplements and bad interactions between those and other drugs. Healthy people like a personal trainer I had a few years back who was a gym owner and triathlete. Died in her 30's from supplements (both my mom and wife were in the medical community of that small Wyoming town when it happened, both are doctors).
I take some myself, but they are wholly unregulated. They can contain Nearly anything, they *DO* have interactions and can cause allergy issues (which is what happened to my personal trainer, suffered anaphylactic shock from something in a new brand of "organic" supplement). Her death was an extreme case, yet not the only death of an otherwise Very healthy person. It's worth being cautious about... they aren't a "sure thing" nor a guaranteed safe bet.
I always say - think of your body as a motor vehicle. You don't expect a car to last forever. It will slowly break down - starting small, then the engine finally blows!
My folks are dealing with this right now (just shy of 80). They now "interview" potential doctors and tell them things like "I'm paying you to Advise me, but I will make the final decision" and "I'm a person first and expect you to consider what's right for me. Do not treat me as the problem I'm having with a 'cure at all costs' mentality".
I see a GP about once every 5 years, and have moved/changed states more frequently than that so haven't had the same one twice. But when it becomes more frequent, I'll be doing the same. Better to spend time finding someone who's comparable with your medical ideology than suffer being treated as just your symptoms. I've seen *WAY* too many people who lost substantial Quality of life just to gain a little more Quantity. I'd rather 3 months of being able to do things and then death over 3 years of no energy/bed ridden and then death. Quality is far more important than Quantity to me.
Boy! I wish my wife understood this thinking. Darn doctors are gonna kill me someday with "test".
Meanwhile hundreds die every year from supplements and bad interactions between those and other drugs. Healthy people like a personal trainer I had a few years back who was a gym owner and triathlete. Died in her 30's from supplements (both my mom and wife were in the medical community of that small Wyoming town when it happened, both are doctors).
I take some myself, but they are wholly unregulated. They can contain Nearly anything, they *DO* have interactions and can cause allergy issues (which is what happened to my personal trainer, suffered anaphylactic shock from something in a new brand of "organic" supplement). Her death was an extreme case, yet not the only death of an otherwise Very healthy person. It's worth being cautious about... they aren't a "sure thing" nor a guaranteed safe bet.
100's die from supplements...do you have those facts. Your trainer was one case. Your certain death came from supplements? ummmm
How many millions die from drug interactions yearly...there are many numbers thrown around out there. I'll take my chances with supps any day....so far for 25 yrs of taking them no death here, and no toxic drug side effects. And they do have a LOT of regulation that does go on....it's a huge industry and pharma drugs even huger..maybe but worldwide, herbals are HUGE.
But I can name the drug side effects I've dealt with starting back in the 80's and a trip to the ER from a pharma drug side effect, stomach ulcer. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Doctors today are pill salesmen/women. They get some pretty nice perks for prescribing x number of a medication. Both doctors and big pharma are well aware that they don't make money on healthy people or dead people. They have a pill for everything and they want you to take it. They don't care about the side effects, dementia, alzheimer's, suicide, etc., just keep buying those meds.
Soon I expect big pharma to produce a zombie pill that will keep you going even after you die. That is, as long as you keep buying that zombie pill.
I don't think ALL doctors are pill pushers, I think that is a bit unfair. I also think that they deal with people who demand a pill for everything (thanks in part to Big Pharma advertising). It took me quite a while to find the PA I have now, who is young enough to be up-to-date on meds and tests but smart enough to know that they are not the answer to every issue.
100's die from supplements...do you have those facts. Your trainer was one case. Your certain death came from supplements?...
You often claim your opinion as fact, despite the fact that you can never support any of your statements with links to reputable sites. So why is it different when someone posts a claim opposite yours?
And, yes, supplements can, and do, interact with other supplements and with prescribed medications. Supplements are useful only when a person is known to be deficient in that particular supplement. Taking a supplement when one does not need it is wasteful at best and dangerous at worst.
I'm seeing many TV ads for supplements. Since you post that you dont have TV any more, you arent aware of these TV ads -- but they're there, they're becoming more and more frequent and they're looking more and more like the TV ads for what you call "big pharma".
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