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A lot of people in New Hampshire and Maine (and Vermont too, I would assume) heat primarily by pellet or wood stove. I'm not one of them, but it is more common than you might think.
Those are heat sources. I asked if anyone would choose cold if there were no possibility of a heat source.
Yes...I love this idea! I used to catch my dad on this one all the time. I always said I was going to live in Arizona, he preferred our home state climate of Minnesota, with it's frigid winters. He always said, those people in Arizona are living inside half the year sitting in their air conditioned homes....to which I replied, what about that "fire box" we have in the basement running overtime 6 or 7 months a year....shall we throw that out ????
If you took the Air conditioners out of the homes of all Phoenix residents, and took the furnaces out of all the people in the Midwest....I'll assure you of one thing, as uncomfortable as the people in phoenix would be, the Midwesterners wouldn't even be able to survive, and millions would literally die from hypothermia....while the Phoenix people would be sitting in the shade and sweating at most.
There is no equating these two extremes in terms of being able to survive without a furnace, vs an air conditioner.
Right. Fire has been around for a long time, but AC only became mainstream in my lifetime (in the US). Many would acclimate within a couple of weeks without AC, except for the sick and elderly. Few, if any, would survive cold without fire.
If AC didn't exist, we would still be building houses to compensate for the lack of a cooling system. The cracker boxes built in most places since AC are like ovens without it.
I don't see how that's possible to do. You can live without AC where it gets hot but not without heat where it gets cold. I don't see that happening.
To not have either is a worse case scenario that is possible. If AC isn’t available, than central heat, which more people have, wouldn’t be available either with a long term power grid/supply failure. Neither a hot or cold area would be ideal without AC or heat, only a year round temperate area would be.
Asking if people would move to an area if AC wasn’t available was a biased question.
I don't see how that's possible to do. You can live without AC where it gets hot but not without heat where it gets cold. I don't see that happening.
I was just pointing out that people who prefer long periods of cold are reliant on a heat source, just as people who prefer long periods of heat may be reliant on a cooling source, although the latter could survive without the cooling source.
I prefer a little of both. Cold for about 2 months, heat for about 2 months ... and the rest of the year is rather pleasant.
I was just pointing out that people who prefer long periods of cold are reliant on a heat source, just as people who prefer long periods of heat may be reliant on a cooling source, although the latter could survive without the cooling source.
I prefer a little of both. Cold for about 2 months, heat for about 2 months ... and the rest of the year is rather pleasant.
Uh, you might want to reconsider that statement. Both camps can survive- we have hundreds of thousands of years of proof that this is the case...humans have lived a hell of lot longer than stoves have been around.
To not have either is a worse case scenario that is possible. If AC isn’t available, than central heat, which more people have, wouldn’t be available either with a long term power grid/supply failure. Neither a hot or cold area would be ideal without AC or heat, only a year round temperate area would be.
Asking if people would move to an area if AC wasn’t available was a biased question.
I think the point being made is that heat in a cold winter area like the upper Midwest or New England is a necessity and one can not survive without it.
On the other hand, AC in a hot summer area like Phoenix, Florida, Mississippi is not a true necessity as people have lived there and survived for generations without it until very recently.
Uh, you might want to reconsider that statement. Both camps can survive- we have hundreds of thousands of years of proof that this is the case...humans have lived a hell of lot longer than stoves have been around.
People had fire for heat where ever it was cold for thousands of years.
Uh, you might want to reconsider that statement. Both camps can survive- we have hundreds of thousands of years of proof that this is the case...humans have lived a hell of lot longer than stoves have been around.
Only because they had FIRE to warm up, which I already pointed out in another post.
Yes...I love this idea! I used to catch my dad on this one all the time. I always said I was going to live in Arizona, he preferred our home state climate of Minnesota, with it's frigid winters. He always said, those people in Arizona are living inside half the year sitting in their air conditioned homes....to which I replied, what about that "fire box" we have in the basement running overtime 6 or 7 months a year....shall we throw that out ????
If you took the Air conditioners out of the homes of all Phoenix residents, and took the furnaces out of all the people in the Midwest....I'll assure you of one thing, as uncomfortable as the people in phoenix would be, the Midwesterners wouldn't even be able to survive, and millions would literally die from hypothermia....while the Phoenix people would be sitting in the shade and sweating at most.
There is no equating these two extremes in terms of being able to survive without a furnace, vs an air conditioner.
The distinction is that the Phoenix people could sleep in the shade during the day and move around at night.
In the cold places, there would be no rest from the cold.
From winter camping, I learned that as long as I can get decent sleep, cold days are OK. But if I am so cold that I cannot sleep well, the daytime is shot.
Howwwwever...
Inuits might be able to provide tips on keeping warm at night, namely sleeping in an igloo with lots of people bundled communally (and naked, from I read) under fur pelts. And eating a diet consisting of blubber with some protein.
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