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there are but having sat through some of them myself , they follow the guidelines perfectly .
everything they said was true . but you will never see the detailed work ups like i have posted here which give you your exact return year by year once you annuitize and that is where the magic happens for the insurer. i am pretty sure most saw my illustrations of how they get ya .
but if anyone wants to see how they can tell the truth and still get over on you i will be happy to post it again .
Anyone withdrawing from annuity should comment too. I do have one differed annuity and 4% of it will cover my baseline fixed expenses. Anything over (2+%) will be used for luxury items.
Okay now that I got it to work in the above post .
This annuity pays you a guaranteed 5.50% growth rate .
If you give them 100k at 55 and wait 10 years it will grow to 180k . It is also linked to a bond index .if the bond index does better you get the higher of the 2 to base an incom on .
The guaranteed account is never your account to take .it can only be used to base an income on . It also has no fees on it .the 100k linked to the bond index has about 3% in fees a year taken so there is no way it will be the higher balance .
At 56 if you annuitized you would get 4% of 105k . If you wait you gain 1/10% a year in draw for every year you wait to annuitize.
By 65 you get 5% of 180k. So out of the 5.50% growth you get the most you can take out is an additional 1/10% of it .
So that is the gotcha .while they give you 5.50% a year as a growth rate they control how much you get in draw . At 65 you old get 5% of the 180k .
You can see by age 85 you have not actually even seen a 4% roi because of how it is doled out. In fact by 90 you have not seen 5.50% .
If you notice you have zero roi until age 76
But you really were compounding at the stated 5.50% a year
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Those who operate annuity funds benefit when their account holders die. I wouldn't want my death to be a benefit to anyone. No life insurance for me, either and no bequests in a will that are known to the heirs. I tell them if I die before age 100, it's all going to charity.
The part that spooks me is it ceases to be my money. I have a friend who bought annuities over the years in $100k increments. Some are paying 12%, which ain’t chump change. He and his wife are very comfortable with the monthly income from them. Still, they spook me.
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