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Old 11-11-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Fordham tuition is way, way over the cost of college at City of NY or SUNY colleges and universities. Way over!!


A great many kids drag their parents into paying for expensive schools. The kids often also take out loans. Many of them do not work that hard and do not exactly overachieve. Then they complain about the costs. No one in NY State should EVER, EVER complain about the cost of college. You can get a first rate education for less than the cost of day care. Even less expensive are the choices for community colleges. I am not sure if college is as cheap in NJ, but I think it is pretty close.
My daughter went to a SUNY. It was not much more than the in-state tuition for Rutgers.

Funny, though, her first year she went to Fordham, the Manhattan campus. BEGGED us to let her go there. I went back and asked for an improvement in their financial aid offer, and they said, "Sure", and gave me another $5K for the year. Still was more than the state schools. By the end of the first semester, she hated it. Loved being in the city, didn't like the school, changed her major, and decided to look at UAlbany and UMass Amherst because of their language programs. She graduated from UAlbany.
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Old 11-11-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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I don't know much about Fordham. There are a lot of expensive privates that are no better than the public colleges and universities. Kids often exhibit some sort of puppy love and want to go for the perceived prestige. Every kid is different. Some thrive in college. A much higher percentage don't and drop out or just barely finish. We were lucky with both of ours. The oldest cost us very little. She went to community college and then a SUNY where she finished Phi Beta Kappa. The younger daughter cost us big time with a double degree from Johns Hopkins and the Peabody Conservatory of Music. It was worth every penny and her loans. She was super challenged and succeeded.
 
Old 11-11-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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America is a capitalist nation. Capitalism is not set up for the majority of the masses to win.
Capitalism is the greatest force for good ever invented by mankind. Because of capitalism, more people have been lifted out of abject, bone-crushing poverty than due to anything other force.
 
Old 11-11-2018, 04:58 PM
 
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Ever see anyone escaping from a capitalist country in to a socialist one ? Me neither
 
Old 11-11-2018, 05:00 PM
 
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I agree. Hopefully she is bright enough NOT to reproduce if she doesn't want to put her children first. It's definitely her choice though. No doubt..
What a pompous thing to say. I'll bet you are also one of those adamantly against any sort of public assistance.

Guess what? A lot of circumstances can change during the course of 20 or so years. But it sure is fun to get in a few jabs at wimmenz.
 
Old 11-11-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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I see you believe in fairytales. Good for you. Our prisons and cemeteries are full of the offspring of single mothers who probably don't agree or wouldn't have agreed with you.
The offspring of married mothers are in the same prisons and cemeteries.

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Maybe your grandchildren would rather spend less time with their mother. Maybe every kid in the world would really rather have a highly stressed mother if given a choice. Maybe driving a BMW and being famous really is more important than any child possibly could be. Maybe...
Right. Every working mother drives a BMW and is famous. What a great point.
 
Old 11-11-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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I never said any such thing. If you are following the thread, you would know that I was raised by a single mother. If given a choice, I would have preferred two parents and a mother that was home with me.
That's nice. Other people are not obligated to arrange their lives based on what you would have preferred.

Really then, what this boils down to is you have unresolved feelings of abandonment from your childhood. You're an adult now; continuing to drag this weight around is a choice.
 
Old 11-11-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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Whether or not a woman wants to be a full-time homemaker is really up to her.

This one gave me a good laugh. After my second (and last) child was born I wanted very much to be a stay at home Mom. My mother was for my sisters and me and I am glad she was.

But what does one do when the husband says if you quit your job, I'm going to leave you??

I knew I would need to work to support the kids and me after he left so I made a decision to stay working.

But I would have loved to be a stay at home Mom.

Early 1960s.
 
Old 11-11-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Speaking of men vs. women- I found this link interesting- a higher percentage of senior women than men live in poverty regardless of marital history, age range ir race.

https://www.epi.org/publication/wome...erty-than-men/
 
Old 11-11-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I don't know much about Fordham. There are a lot of expensive privates that are no better than the public colleges and universities. Kids often exhibit some sort of puppy love and want to go for the perceived prestige. Every kid is different. Some thrive in college. A much higher percentage don't and drop out or just barely finish. We were lucky with both of ours. The oldest cost us very little. She went to community college and then a SUNY where she finished Phi Beta Kappa. The younger daughter cost us big time with a double degree from Johns Hopkins and the Peabody Conservatory of Music. It was worth every penny and her loans. She was super challenged and succeeded.
Fordham has a good rep and some famous alumni such as Denzel Washington, Vince Lombardi, Alan Alda, Mary Higgins Clark...our current POTUS...

It's one of the Jesuit-run universities.
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