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Old 11-29-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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Have you ever gotten to the point where you really don't care if you live or die?

Living is hard, dying isn't all that hard from what I've seen. I know, some diseases are painful but, say, if you are diagnosed with extensive heart disease, did you ever get to the point where you were resigned to it?

Please don't try to dissect this post. I'm just asking.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Miraflores
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Nope!
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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Have you ever gotten to the point where you really don't care if you live or die?

Living is hard, dying isn't all that hard from what I've seen. I know, some diseases are painful but, say, if you are diagnosed with extensive heart disease, did you ever get to the point where you were resigned to it?

Please don't try to dissect this post. I'm just asking.
I've never enjoyed the prospect of living to extreme old age and perhaps becoming physically and/or mentally impaired. I'd rather die at a younger age than go through that. And so I decided years ago that if I should ever be diagnosed with cancer or heart disease I would just let it take its course. And as a believer in Jesus Christ I look forward to going home to heaven. It is much better to be absent from the body and at home with the Lord.
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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Well, I guess the questions I have are:

1. Can whatever was diagnosed be fixed?

2. Is it fear of the "fix" that causes the preference for resignation?

3. Do you absolutely know that whatever is wrong will kill you as opposed to leaving you alive and suffering?

For instance, if we are talking about heart disease and it can be cured through surgery.... well, the surgery is very frightening to think about. However, the reality is that our minds blow it way out of proportion and it isn't difficult at all... especially with the minimally invasive techniques. But, even if you go through a full sternotomy, it is only about 6 weeks of side effects. There is pain for about 3 days which is completely taken care of by medication, and then on the fourth day there is no longer any pain. There is physical weakness, but the hospital has you out of bed on the first day after surgery walking around the unit and sitting in chairs, and everyone is going to tell you how wonderful you look and you will be amazed at how good you feel.

If we are talking about something like pancreatic cancer, and the oncologist is telling you that it is pretty advanced, and may even have spread, and through harsh treatments your life can be extended but not preserved, and you will be sick the entire time.... then I might think long and hard about preserving my life.

If we are talking about something like diabetes which requires dietary changes, and you simply don't want to do it... then I might wonder what else is going on.

There are lots of forums that deal with specific situations and you might find people with whom you feel you can be more open to discuss your thoughts.
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Have you ever gotten to the point where you really don't care if you live or die?

Living is hard, dying isn't all that hard from what I've seen. I know, some diseases are painful but, say, if you are diagnosed with extensive heart disease, did you ever get to the point where you were resigned to it?

Please don't try to dissect this post. I'm just asking.


You've posted something similar in the past, OP. Have you considered counseling?
I'm concerned for you...
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Florida -
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I've never enjoyed the prospect of living to extreme old age and perhaps becoming physically and/or mentally impaired. I'd rather die at a younger age than go through that. And so I decided years ago that if I should ever be diagnosed with cancer or heart disease I would just let it take its course. And as a believer in Jesus Christ I look forward to going home to heaven. It is much better to be absent from the body and at home with the Lord.
Absolutely! - Dying is just moving on toward our real home (which is not this world).

I'm not anxious to die, but, given the downward spiral of this world, have grown increasingly less enamored with what this world has to offer to a true believer.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Living wins out every time in my household.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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I've always said that if I were to be diagnosed with some disease that will end me, then I don't want to stay alive and spend our assets on prolonging death. I'd rather go quickly and not tax my family's ability to provide for themselves.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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I've watched and held an old person (late 90s) die in agony, fighting to the very end. It was a most painful experience for me.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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Yes, that is why under my screen name you will see "Waiting for God". I have several health issues, also financial issues and honestly nothing good to look forward to. I can foresee several NOT GOOD things in the future that I would rather not be around to see.
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