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Old 12-13-2018, 02:40 AM
 
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Thereís a way to read it free, I read it here. I just donít know how to do it. We pay almost $500 to get the WSJ. Itís the only thing weíre willing o spend without cutting corners. There are ways to cut it, but weíre not going to waste our time. Itís worth every single cent.
You pay $500 to get brainwashed by Rupert Murdoch? You can watch Fox and Friends for free.
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:51 AM
 
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You pay $500 to get brainwashed by Rupert Murdoch? You can watch Fox and Friends for free.
Awesome post.
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:18 AM
 
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Awesome post.
You have to be careful with the WSJ. The business news is real. If the piece has a byline, youíre getting the Rupert Murdoch editorial influence. Iíll often find myself reading something from the WSJ, think to myself that it doesnít pass the sniff test, scroll up, and see the byline. The WSJ didnít used to spin things like that.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:11 AM
 
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Dont people have a pile of books to read, hobbies to do, walks to take, housework that needs to be done, cat food to buy,bills to pay,etc etc etc? Who has time to feel lonely? Maybe the lonely person needs to find more to do. Get involved. Whether its in their community or with the NYT bestseller list- read them all. Get a library card. Learn to draw and paint. Find a senior walking grp. Take a course in world history or knitting. DO SOMETHING!
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:16 AM
 
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Dont people have a pile of books to read, hobbies to do, walks to take, housework that needs to be done, cat food to buy,bills to pay,etc etc etc? Who has time to feel lonely? Maybe the lonely person needs to find more to do. Get involved. Whether its in their community or with the NYT bestseller list- read them all. Get a library card. Learn to draw and paint. Find a senior walking grp. Take a course in world history or knitting. DO SOMETHING!
Loneliness is often about not feeling loved or not feeling appreciated or not feeling truly known by anyone or not feeling close to anyone. Or not being currently successful in fulfilling those needs. Not about activities.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:16 AM
 
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Childfree say they enjoy it so aging alone shouldn't be a problem.
Oh for heaven's sake. I think there's plenty of evidence that being a parent doesn't ensure you won't "age alone." Why do you resent CFs so much?

I am aging alone, as I lived alone and became an adult alone. I realize I probably have less "family" than many people and have always kept it in mind should issues arise. I also have tried to make sure I have enough money to hire some kind of help should that arise.

As much as I'd appreciate close company, I have not known (or been myself) company to share lives with, hence, alone. Cannot see having children or marrying for some far-off time to not be alone.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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My mother had five children and she died alone. Giving birth is no guarantee that you'll have a built-in caretaker.

We lived, for a few years, in a wealthy Florida town, and we'd see elderly people out to dinner with their nurses. It was commonplace to see a young nurse, in full garb, accompanying her patient. All it takes is $$$.

Caring for an elderly parent is a huge undertaking. I've seen lives put on hold, marriages strained and friendships ruined. I wouldn't expect my son, or anyone, to take this on.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:44 AM
 
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They both retired at 65. He had a heart attack around 70. He's now had 2 quadruple bypasses. She has had both knees replaced, 3 back surgeries (the last one which basically disabled her), shoulder replacement, colon cancer (at 42), and a myriad of other things, and she has a pacemaker. They are now BOTH on dialysis. After her last back surgery (spinal fusion) she wound up spending 6 months in hospital and rehab.

It's been a rough road.
I can't rep you, but I just wanted to say holy smokes to this. That is a lot of medical stuff to go through.


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Perhaps. Perhaps it is a socialist thing, where no one can afford the time and money to care for elders.
To illustrate:
1910 : 0.86% of the GNP was taken by taxes
2018 : between 39% and 44% of the GDP is taken in aggregate taxes (state, local, federal)
Add to that, the pressure for all adults to work at jobs outside the home.

And thanks to socialism and the lie that government will care for us, by taxing other people's children, family size has tanked. Wonder whose children will pay the increased taxes?
Meh, I'm not really interested in going back to 1910 or holding it up as some sort of gold standard. Especially as a woman.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:47 AM
 
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The people responsible for such things should have had the personal/home assistance robots and perfected self-driving cars ready to go when the baby boomers began to hit Medicare age. It's not like they didn't know the senior population boom was coming. In addition, they could have made a fortune for themselves. No need to take the car keys away and seniors could go anywhere they want - like to visit friends (who probably are the same age they are) and relatives, to doctor appointments, shopping if they are able or want to and even take a vacation. Who would mind aging alone if they could get out to see people like they did in their 40s?

I'm surprised that the Japanese or China didn't have these ready to go already. According to the book, "What to Expect When No One is Expecting," by Jonathan V Last:

"Chinaís population will get very old and then rapidly contract. By 2050, one out of every 4 of its citizens will be over the age of 65. The United Nations projects that by the year 2100, Poland will have lost one-quarter of its population. Japan will be half its current size by the end of the century. In Japan, people buy more adult diapers than diapers for babies. In Italy, there are already more deaths than births every year. Thirty years ago, Iranís fertility rate was 6.5. Two generations later it has rapidly declined to 1.88."

The book is about contracting populations as people choose to have less kids or no kids but as you can see, other countries are also dealing with aging populations. I do not know, if in other countries, generations of families still live under one roof like they did 30 - 40 years ago.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:54 AM
 
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WSJ: "More than ever, Americans are aging alone."

Makes perfect sense, they are picking the best company they know.
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