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Old 12-13-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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You pay $500 to get brainwashed by Rupert Murdoch? You can watch Fox and Friends for free.
I like to be brainwashed by Murdoch vs some other fake news out there. I’ve been brainwashed since my first day out of college when my first boss showed me how to read the stock section of the wsj. That’s how I can afford $500 a year now. I’m now brainwashing my kids, give them access to the electronic version, hopefully in 30 years they’ll be able to afford the subscription. Yeah, keep the washed brain the family.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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You have to be careful with the WSJ. The business news is real. If the piece has a byline, youíre getting the Rupert Murdoch editorial influence. Iíll often find myself reading something from the WSJ, think to myself that it doesnít pass the sniff test, scroll up, and see the byline. The WSJ didnít used to spin things like that.
Iím not sure what newspaper you read, but some of your comments indicate to be that you are brainwashed by some media too. Maybe you donít realize it.
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: equator
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But how are these European families caring for elderly with dementia? That is often more than the family member can handle. And are the wives not working? I asked our translator here how big a problem it is here where families are multi-generational, and she said diabetes is the problem, not dementia. So I thought it is more of a first-world issue.

I looked it up and was alarmed to see this chart:

https://www.alz.co.uk/research/statistics
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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So why post it? We can't read it.
Try this link, no Facebook login required...

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...ne-11544541134

Click on ďfollow linkĒ
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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I can't rep you, but I just wanted to say holy smokes to this. That is a lot of medical stuff to go through.
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Tell me about it. Itís why I am completely burned out on them. My sibs ďthinkĒ they know how this impacts me (they are several states away) but they really have no clue. Since the broken leg leg last week, Iíve spent more time dealing with them than I have at my job. I canít (and wonít) do this anymore.
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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But how are these European families caring for elderly with dementia? That is often more than the family member can handle. And are the wives not working? I asked our translator here how big a problem it is here where families are multi-generational, and she said diabetes is the problem, not dementia. So I thought it is more of a first-world issue.

I looked it up and was alarmed to see this chart:

https://www.alz.co.uk/research/statistics
No; it is a first world issue ... for now.

That graph didn't adjust for population & the differences in population between low-middle & high-income countries are enormous! Good grief, why did they do that? It almost makes it look, well ... nevermind.

I mean; 58% of people with dementia are living in low and middle-income countries but 86.6% of all people live in low and middle-income countries.

Given that 6.5 billion people live in low and middle-income countries out of the 7.5 billion people worldwide; the rate of dementia in high-income countries is almost 380.5% greater than the rate of dementia in low and middle-income countries.

Unfortunately, given that the low and middle-income countries have now adopted the same public health policies of the high-income countries (sans sanitation & clean drinking water); I'm sure that gap will narrow ... while both continue to rise.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:03 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Tell me about it. Itís why I am completely burned out on them. My sibs ďthinkĒ they know how this impacts me (they are several states away) but they really have no clue. Since the broken leg leg last week, Iíve spent more time dealing with them than I have at my job. I canít (and wonít) do this anymore.
If the threads in Caregiving are any indication; there has been a trend in acute care facilities blatantly disregarding both verbal & written directives that patients cannot be cared for by a family member.

Orders are written that the patient will be discharged to that family member & some have had concerns about facing potential elder abuse/neglect charges if they refuse.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:03 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Childfree say they enjoy it so aging alone shouldn't be a problem.
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Oh for heaven's sake. I think there's plenty of evidence that being a parent doesn't ensure you won't "age alone." Why do you resent CFs so much?
I'm not that poster but I can understand why she said that. Specific to this forum; it's not so much an action as it is a reaction.

In the past, regardless of country or culture; I don't think that there was any resentment towards the CFs due to how vested in their communities they were.

Whether married & CF or never married, they simply had more time, energy & money than parents did to develop spiritually, intellectually, socially & artistically; then gifting those assets to their friends & neighbors. There was a sacrifice involved.

Which really is what happens when you raise a family: Your needs become 2nd (or 3rd, 4th ... last) to the needs of the rest of the household.

That being said: There are CFs here on CD who I admire tremendously, as I sense they have a "greatness" about them that they invest in others. I'm kind of a big fan of several of them! So I really want to avoid offending them by stereotyping but surely; nobody has missed some of the back-slapping/high-fiving "Shouldn't have had any kids!" attitude that is directed at parents here. All. The. Time.

As if I don't question my own sanity often enough. I mean; some people, obviously; should not have kids & some people really aren't marriage material. I personally; knew I was going to be a parent from the day I was born but I'm really bad at relationships. I mean really bad. Sometimes I wonder what God was even thinking when he made me but my point, is that most parents have moments when they question themselves & figuring in the sometimes covert (or outright) parent-bashing of our current culture; this might lend itself to an occasional snarky comment. That's just my $0.02.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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It's a cultural thing. Somewhere around the last couple of generations, people in the U.S. stopped taking care of their elders and put them in nursing homes.
In many other parts of the world, elders even with their health problems live with family members and never see a nursing home, like they've done for thousands of years.
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ĎHome is the place where, when you have to go there,
They have to take you in.í -- Robert Frost
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...-the-hired-man
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:28 PM
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Location: Texas
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Being alone and lonely are 2 different states of existence. You can be lonely in a crowd and you can be alone but never lonely. Different states of mind.
The problem of aging alone isn't just loneliness. It has to do with health care and meeting basic needs if one is too sick or infirm to meet those needs on their own. If someone has serious health care issues then it can be difficult to live alone.
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