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Old 12-12-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Why would you begrudge newspapers the right and necessity to remain financially viable in order to publish the newspaper and vast information contained within with all the costs involved of publication and paying reporters and newspaper workers and gathering information? Do you think it's free and cost-free to run a newspaper or other publications?
Most papers/pubs give you a few free articles a month before they cut you off...but not the WSJ. Rather than tick people off they'd be better off to at least give away a few teaser articles - bet they'd get more subscriptions that way.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:20 PM
 
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Most papers/pubs give you a few free articles a month before they cut you off...but not the WSJ. Rather than tick people off they'd be better off to at least give away a few teaser articles - bet they'd get more subscriptions that way.
Most people do not have the interest in nor intellect to read the Wall Street Journal on a daily or frequent basis.

And the content of the WSJ is valuable to a good number of people.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:27 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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There’s a way to read it free, I read it here. I just don’t know how to do it. We pay almost $500 to get the WSJ. It’s the only thing we’re willing o spend without cutting corners. There are ways to cut it, but we’re not going to waste our time. It’s worth every single cent.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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It's a cultural thing. Somewhere around the last couple of generations, people in the U.S. stopped taking care of their elders and put them in nursing homes.
Perhaps. Perhaps it is a socialist thing, where no one can afford the time and money to care for elders.
To illustrate:
1910 : 0.86% of the GNP was taken by taxes
2018 : between 39% and 44% of the GDP is taken in aggregate taxes (state, local, federal)
Add to that, the pressure for all adults to work at jobs outside the home.

And thanks to socialism and the lie that government will care for us, by taxing other people's children, family size has tanked. Wonder whose children will pay the increased taxes?
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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They're very old.

When did they retire? How were they then? Most people don't make it to those ages - let alone in good health.
They both retired at 65. He had a heart attack around 70. He's now had 2 quadruple bypasses. She has had both knees replaced, 3 back surgeries (the last one which basically disabled her), shoulder replacement, colon cancer (at 42), and a myriad of other things, and she has a pacemaker. They are now BOTH on dialysis. After her last back surgery (spinal fusion) she wound up spending 6 months in hospital and rehab.

It's been a rough road.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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But millions of adult children live nowhere even near where their parents are living....they live in other far-flung states and places. So adult children do not drop over for such occurrences as you cite above. Such occurrences are handled in other ways.
My point was, NOONE can simply say "hey look to take care of your needs okay?"

You don't KNOW what is going to happen.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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Agreed. I like people, but in small doses and on my terms.

I have some frustration in my life now. I don't feel like I'm "in charge" of my life. My girlfriend wanted to go out to dinner last night and to Walmart. She's still not driving, and I didn't get home until 9 (I leave for work around 7:15 AM). My aunt needs me to set up some monitors and stuff for her to WFH this evening after I get off with the office issues they're having. We have a software go-live tomorrow starting earlier than usual, so tomorrow and Friday are booked with that.

Oh, and the girlfriend wants to do chocolate covered pretzels Saturday (of course, I'll be doing most of the work and it will be at my expense) and wants me to take her to some Christmas church thing on Sunday. I'm also on-call for my job this week.

By Tuesday morning, the remainder of my week was already booked for me! Unfortunately, no one really asked me what I wanted to do this week. Things get "penciled in" on my schedule, and while some of it is unavoidable, a lot of it feels like crap.

I'd rather be "alone" than deal with this.
Maybe be alone. It is entirely within your control. You are choosing this path, it is not forced upon you.

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Old 12-12-2018, 09:54 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Once both mom and dad had to work to pay the bills and get the kids to school there was nobody to take care of grandma. Some elderly folks are fine living alone rather than listening to a teenage kid's rap music. Generational differences work both ways. I'm happy on my own at 70. Maybe at 80 I'll have a different opinion.
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:26 PM
 
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Perhaps. Perhaps it is a socialist thing, where no one can afford the time and money to care for elders.
To illustrate:
1910 : 0.86% of the GNP was taken by taxes
2018 : between 39% and 44% of the GDP is taken in aggregate taxes (state, local, federal)
Add to that, the pressure for all adults to work at jobs outside the home.

And thanks to socialism and the lie that government will care for us, by taxing other people's children, family size has tanked. Wonder whose children will pay the increased taxes?
I don't think so. It's a choice we've all made because of money and convenience and priorities. In Europe at least very recently, old people lived with their children and or grand children. Europeans are more socialist by far than we are and yet it's just a given that when you are old, you will be living with relatives. My grandmother who died at 103 in Italy never saw a nursing home. Of course not everyone, but when I lived in Europe, this is how the majority of elders lived. Few of them unless it was physically impossible to care for them ended up in a nursing home or some kind of assisted living.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Warning - paywall.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-lon...ne-11544541134

Here's a new article from the WSJ about "aging alone." What do you pin that on? Late in life divorce? Lack of support from children/not having children? Widowed? How do you plan for aging alone or do you not anticipate it?
Well, we constantly scream and shout about how people should be independent and take care of themselves instead of letting others take care of them, so why are we surprised when elderly people insist on taking care of themselves?

Personally, I don't think we're as separated from family more then we've been in the past. But we do live in more fractured communities and have very few ties to the people who live around us. I'd think many older people would like to see more of their neighbors but because they don't get out of the house much, the neighbors may think they want to be left alone.

I tend to stay to myself a lot, but I do notice what goes on around me and if I saw the mail and newspapers of my neighbor hadn't been picked up for a day or two, I'd try to find out why. But I think I'd be the exception on that.

I personally don't have kids or close relatives or even close friends who check in with me. So I'm one of those aging alone and having to do the best I can. I really don't regret that much because I've always liked being alone and I've already accepted that I'll probably die alone, too, and not be found for a week or two. Sorry, paramedics.
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