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Old 04-20-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Oak Bowery
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There is absolute no smoking in trains trams or busses. [mod cut - personal attack]
Even on the platforms it is no smoking.
The data appears to backup my recent experiences in the two of the three countries we visited are in the top 10 at 2 (Luxembourg) and 6 (Belgium) for smoking. According to the graph, the Netherlands isn’t too far behind. The US, at around 1250 cigarettes per person, is in the middle of the pack.

Original source of data.

I await your apology for the childish name calling.... but am not holding my breath for it...or for smokers.


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Old 04-20-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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I volunteer in our International airport with Travelers Assistance. Our airport is entirely smoke free and the only smoking option for travelers on a layover is to leave the airport, then come back through security for their next flight.

Whenever a flight arrives from Japan or France, a handful of their passengers head to my booth to ask where they can smoke.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:07 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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The data appears to backup my recent experiences in the two of the three countries we visited are in the top 10 at 2 (Luxembourg) and 6 (Belgium) for smoking. According to the graph, the Netherlands isn’t too far behind. The US, at around 1250 cigarettes per person, is in the middle of the pack.

Original source of data.

I await your apology for the childish name calling.... but am not holding my breath for it...or for smokers.

With all due respect, your original post implied that smoking was permitted in all those modes of transportation you mentioned. If that was not the case, why even mention how you got around?
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:03 AM
 
Location: DFW
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What I don't get....

Smoking tobacco = Bad. Need laws to restrict.

Smoking Pot = Not Bad. Need laws to make it OK.

Yes I know no one smokes Pot as much as Tobacco but they tend to hold the smoke in their lungs longer plus there are no telling the chemicals that have been sprayed on the pot.
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:33 AM
 
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I live in a condo where, when I moved in, smoking was prohibited in common areas. Last year, smoking was also prohibited on balconies. This year, it has become an entirely smoke-free building. Smokers buying before this change in regs was made are not grandfathered in.

I’m curious to find out how this will be enforced and what will happen if the board suspects that someone continues to smoke in their unit.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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What I don't get....

Smoking tobacco = Bad. Need laws to restrict.

Smoking Pot = Not Bad. Need laws to make it OK.

Yes I know no one smokes Pot as much as Tobacco but they tend to hold the smoke in their lungs longer plus there are no telling the chemicals that have been sprayed on the pot.
Most people don't chain smoke pot. They won't sit in a restaurant and blow it into surrounding tables. They can't run outside for break at work and smoke a quick one then come back in reeking of pot smoke or they will be fired. Pretty sure it will still be illegal to smoke it in public or while driving, and illegal to DWI. So people will be smoking pot at home, or at a friend's house who smokes it.

Actually, I don't think half the users will smoke it at all. They will use it in gummies or tabs for a sleep aid or other medicinal purpose. There are no medicinal uses for tobacco AFAIK.

I don't live in a state that allows it. I'm sure someone who does can tell us what the laws are about where you can smoke it.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Traveling
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As a smoker who lived in a building where you had to be x number of feet from the building, I always obeyed.

Smoking is smelly and would be discernible from outside the unit. Smoking on a balcony would be visible. I think if it is understood that you would be evicted if you were 'caught', people would pay attention.

In my old building, three people were evicted when the ban came into effect and they weren't compliant. I am not certain as it has been many years since I smoked inside a building but I believe you can smell it from just outside the door.

This ban had actually helped me in my quest to quit. I cut back to half a pack when I moved into my old building. It's much easier for me to cut back now, even though we are allowed to smoke outside the apartment.

I'm not positive but I think my neighbors in my old building would have informed management if they had smelled cigarette smoke from my apartment. Where I am now, they do periodic walk throughs. Cigarette smoke/smell is very difficult to get rid of and I am sure they would be able to discern during the walk throughs if someone was smoking in the unit.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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My mom worked at a doctor's office building, it had maybe 30 doctors with all kinds of specialties. She started working there around 1977 and not only did the people in the waiting room smoke... some of the doctors and nurses smoked in the building! Mom would come home smelling like cigarette smoke and antiseptics and her rose hand cream.

They banned smoking in the building sometime in the early 1980's but a ghost of the smoke smell never left the place, even after they completely renovated the building and replaced all the carpet and furniture. She still came home smelling like smoke, antiseptics, and roses until she quit in 2001.

I work in health care, and for whatever reason, I think healthcare has a larger percentage of smokers than other occupations. A LOT of nurses smoke. When I did my one of my clinicals at a local hospital years back, the head of the Respiratory Therapy department smoked!


On my first flight, I sat in smoking and my bff sat in non-smoking....I was row 18 and she was row 19, lol.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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I've had friends and family die from COPD and cancer from smoking. ...They don't see that as a problem?.... or they don't think that smoking is what got them there in the first place...
I have a gf that has lung cancer and still smokes. She's had chemo a bunch of times but thinks that something other than cigarettes has caused her cancer.


I used to smoke 2 packs a day for many years, I quit in 2006. I have probably done damage to my health, I often worry that I have some form of cancer. When I was smoking, I used to complain about people eating unhealthy foods, car/bus fumes, etc... anything to try to get the emphasis off of cigarette smoke. I'm happy I quit and don't care that others smoke, but it really does stink! I can walk by a car in a parking lot and know that the people who own the car smoke, even if they aren't in it. If a smoker walks by me in a store, I can tell that they are a smoker. I'm embarrassed that I used to smell like that and didn't know it.




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If i did it for 10 whole years, im sure i can again.

Until then pardon my smoke....
Just curious, what made you start smoking again after being quit for 10 years?
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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I work in health care, and for whatever reason, I think healthcare has a larger percentage of smokers than other occupations. A LOT of nurses smoke. When I did my one of my clinicals at a local hospital years back, the head of the Respiratory Therapy department smoked!
When I was in college the School of Nursing always had a pall of smoke over the building from all the nursing students who smoked. The people who should know the best were the heaviest smokers.
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