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Old 05-21-2019, 11:40 PM
 
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You've read a few articles.

Newbie and I have lived it.

Ageism is not a problem in Silicon Valley and neither is sexism, as much as certain groups would like to make it into one.

If you wish to dismiss and shut down any discussion on ageism based on the belief I’ve only read a “ few articles” so be it.
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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The one I hate most is assuming not computer or tech savvy. I have been using cutting edge tech since I was in my 20s and have had a hand in design, test and installation of many R&D projects into production. I also managed many large tech projects for years before I left work. When I left we still had some significantly older than me working on some of the projects.
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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I'd be happy to reply after you post some selfies.


Just kidding.



Sort of.
What exactly are you saying? That OP's feelings of experiencing sexism and ageism are purely due to an inferior appearance? Yeah, that's so much better and more appropriate.
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Really? Are you speaking from experience? Because DH could have stayed at his company as long as he wanted. He didn't have to retire at 68.

We had another friend who was still working -- because it was fun -- at 75.

There's no pressure on our other friends to retire, either, and they're about to hit the big 6-0.

There's a research institute that is well-known for keeping on superannuated employees.

As far as sexism goes, I never experienced any. (Really!) Most of the guys I worked with were happy to see a woman had been hired and the rest didn't care one way or the other. I could do the work, that's all that mattered.
I've never understand why, just because someone hasn't experienced something directly, that they feel the need to cast doubt that the phenomena exists at all. And manages to cast aspersions on those who do experience it.

But yes, everyone has an opinion... and their own experiences.
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:15 AM
 
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What exactly are you saying? That OP's feelings of experiencing sexism and ageism are purely due to an inferior appearance? Yeah, that's so much better and more appropriate.
That sure is what it sounded like to me, too. I'm exceptionally tall (6'3" in high school), bookish, intellectual, feminist, so naturally I was tormented unmercifully in school. So I'm admittedly a trifle sensitive.

Men can experience ageism and even sexism, but rarely both. It's takes a special kind of sensibility to get what I'm referring to, but it's really not a proper subject of jokes.

I have a couple of really long threads on bullying from some time ago in the Psychology forum. This is not the place to start that subject, but ageism/sexism and bullying are related. Making fun of someone is a way of controlling and diminishing them.
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Really? Are you speaking from experience? Because DH could have stayed at his company as long as he wanted. He didn't have to retire at 68.

We had another friend who was still working -- because it was fun -- at 75.

There's no pressure on our other friends to retire, either, and they're about to hit the big 6-0.

There's a research institute that is well-known for keeping on superannuated employees.

As far as sexism goes, I never experienced any. (Really!) Most of the guys I worked with were happy to see a woman had been hired and the rest didn't care one way or the other. I could do the work, that's all that mattered.
Are they working at the sexy household names like Apple, Google, Facebook, or Netflix? I think there's a big difference between those types of companies and places designing things that are much more under the radar.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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Are they working at the sexy household names like Apple, Google, Facebook, or Netflix? I think there's a big difference between those types of companies and places designing things that are much more under the radar.
Such as? I'd say retirement age is beyond cheerleader popularity contest and more about substance, hopefully.

Besides, who wants to break a hip going down that slide. (Another "ageist" quote). lol, no snowflake.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Glzoslt1w
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:28 AM
 
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I've never understand why, just because someone hasn't experienced something directly, that they feel the need to cast doubt that the phenomena exists at all. And manages to cast aspersions on those who do experience it.

But yes, everyone has an opinion... and their own experiences.
Or the presumption one hasn't experience in that arena
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Such as? I'd say retirement age is beyond cheerleader popularity contest and more about substance, hopefully.

Besides, who wants to break a hip going down that slide. (Another "ageist" quote). lol, no snowflake.
Those are the big, marquee names that pop up in the best places to work list. They're well known. I'm sure there are plenty of excellent companies to work for that fly perfectly under the radar.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:37 AM
 
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On this same Retirement forum, there's this thread: Senior Memory Farts
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