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Old 06-16-2019, 02:32 AM
 
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If you are afraid, why are you? If you aren't, why aren't you? And (just an example): if tomorrow you were diagnosed with, say, Stage 4 lung cancer, to what lengths would you go to stay alive?

Lastly, do you believe in Physician-Assisted Suicide?

My recent PCP -- a geriatrician who is 65 and who recently retired -- thinks that everyone 75+ should be allowed to avail themselves of P-A Suicide for any reason whatsoever, because he says that, for the majority of us, life starts to get very difficult between age 75 and 80.

My ex-BF, who I'm still in contact with, is 82 and an Ombudsman in another very populous state/county. A few years ago when he started to volunteer, he was astounded that the vast majority of people in assisted-living/nursing homes were (and are) younger than he was!

My research -- and experience (I am living in my third 55+ retirement community in the past 10 years) -- is that, yes, we are living a bit longer but we're not living better. As some physician said recently (sorry -- I can't remember who nor can I remember who said it): "Modern medicine won't prolong your life but it will prolong your dying."

So to start if off: No, I'm not afraid of death. Dying -- that's another story because dying tends to be unnecessarily painful in The US. Secondly, I am a big fan of P-A Suicide. Thirdly, I think anyone 75 and over should be able to check out (be allowed P-A Suicide) for any reason whatsoever.
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:26 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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[quote=Fran66;55436142]If you aren't, why aren't you?

No, I'm not afraid. I suspect people fear it because they are worried they will leave something unsaid, unresolved, undone, not achieved. I don't feel I've left too many things undone at this point. Few regrets and I've tried to live an ethical and conscientious life. After I'm dead something still persists, just in a different form. I hope to become part of a very beloved place and have made that desire known.

And (just an example): if tomorrow you were diagnosed with, say, Stage 4 lung cancer, to what lengths would you go to stay alive?

Well, I have faced two bouts of cancer already so have been down that mental road before. I did what felt right at the time. Not sure what would seem best the next time and not going to borrow trouble until it happens. Probably ask to stay comfortable, settle my affairs, and let the rest go. No heroics. There's really no point.

Lastly, do you believe in Physician-Assisted Suicide?

Yes. If not physician-assisted, I would hope the option is available through some other avenue. I feel a person should have the right to determine their own future with impunity. If someone doesn't agree with my choice that's fine. They have the right to do something different for themselves...but themselves only. Well, I can see a parent having to decide for a child, but that's alien territory for me so I won't presume.

My recent PCP -- a geriatrician who is 65 and who recently retired -- thinks that everyone 75+ should be allowed to avail themselves of P-A Suicide for any reason whatsoever, because he says that, for the majority of us, life starts to get very difficult between age 75 and 80.

I don't believe age/aging has much to do with it. No magic age after which the options should be different. I also don't see the point of scratching after every extra minute, preserving myself for some distant unknown future or to brag about how long I kept age at bay. But then I don't abuse myself either.

If a person is mature/cognizant enough to decide when it is time to die they should be free to do so. I don't believe that the medical establishment is something to be victimized by. I believe it offers tools and I believe in my ability to use them. Not all of it is some evil bogeyman. If you choose to be ruled by paranoia and suspicion be my guest. IME modern medicine has treated me quite well. Probably wouldn't have survived this long if it hadn't. There are always choices to weigh, opinions to be considered, but decisions are still up to an individual to make. I'll do my best. And, prepare instruments just in case I can't make them.

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Old 06-16-2019, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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Am not. Why? Because its inevitable. Nobody is spared. Is a topic I don't think about or dwell on. Financially my wife and children will be set. And I would hope that my wife would not lead a lonely life after I'm gone.
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Afraid? Nope.

Death is just the end of consciousness. It's like going under anesthesia but not waking up.
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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I'm afraid of NOT dying, and lingering long enough to be a burden on others.


If the doctor said I have a month to live, my reply would be "Do I have to wait"?


I've lived my 80 years fully, done all Id ever want to do, nothing important remains undone.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Central NY
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I don't think I am afraid of dying, mainly because I haven't reached the point of the possibility.

When it is that time for me, I hope it is very quick and painless. Like not waking up from a nap.

There is a lot left undone in my life. But at this point in my life (I'm 77), I'm not going to worry about it. At least I got this far and didn't die a horrific death when I was young.

I believe in God, which has been important to me. I would like to see family who have passed already, but not sure I believe I will.

PAS...... yes, but only if I'm dying anyway with lots of pain and expense.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:56 AM
 
Location: In a daze
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I’m not afraid of death, it’s the dying part that worries me.

I have a living will and medical power of attorney in place. I pray my wishes will be carried out. At this point in my life, I wouldn’t subject myself to chemo or other radical measures to stay alive. For me, quality of life far outweighs longevity of life.
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I’m a proponent of medical aid in dying and it’s heartening that 2 more states just passed legislation in that direction.

A friend was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and decided to end his life on his own terms. Fortunately he had moved to Washington after he retired, so had access to medical aid to do so.

He set a date, and threw himself a goodbye party for the week before. When the day came, his significant other was with him. She reported to me that it was sad of course, but very peaceful. He administered the medication to himself, and a couple minutes went by. His last words were “this stuff isn’t working - I’m not even sleepy”.
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Old 06-16-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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I’m not afraid of death, it’s the dying part that worries me.

I have a living will and medical power of attorney in place. I pray my wishes will be carried out. At this point in my life, I wouldn’t subject myself to chemo or other radical measures to stay alive. For me, quality of life far outweighs longevity of life.
I'm more concerned about the circumstances than death itself. I do not want to rot away in a nursing home for years even though I should be able to afford a good one. My mother and my husband died within a month of each other; Mom was 85 and DH was 79. Both had cancer that had little chance of remission with treatment (DH's doc said 3%) and both died quietly at home with support from hospice, with only the last month or so being really bad. It doesn't get much better than that; a long life well-lived, time to say goodbye and fading away peacefully without too much suffering.

I do believe in assisted suicide and so did DH; his mother developed Alzheimer's late in her life and he didn't want me to have to deal with it, emotionally and financially, if it happened to him. We're in a state where it's illegal so I'm not sure how that would have played out.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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As earlier posters to this thread have said more eloquently than I could, I'm not afraid of death -- I'm afraid of dying. I hope my death is quick, painless, and panic-free, but realistically I don't expect that it will be. And yes, I'm a strong believer in physician-assisted suicide.
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