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Old 06-25-2019, 06:15 AM
 
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My wife retired as a preschool teacher for the ymha which is run by the United Jewish appeal..

She gets ss and a contributory pension
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I was reading a thread on one of those neighborhood sites -- let's call it DoorNext.com -- with people from my former town in CA complaining about how hard it is to live there with rents and prices escalating the way they are.

One woman commented that her career was as a preschool teacher at a church, so she has no pension, no Social Security and no Disability! Being an atheist, I'm not familiar with parochial schools but if they employ teachers, are they really exempt from making contributions to Social Security?

I'm not an atheist and not familiar with parochial schools either.

To answer your question about who would take such a job: some who needed money to live on. At least you can eat while looking for another job that provided some of those benefits.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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Aren't we all free to make personal choices? I don't think anyone is forcing anyone else to work at a religious affiliated school knowing they will not be paying into SS and not receiving benefits later on.
Who's fault is it that the woman in the original post doesn't received SS? The churches? No, it's her own.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:08 AM
 
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Someone who is paid a lot, some who likes other fringe benefits of the job, some who is already financially secure, or some who just needs a job bad.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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In fact I bet a lot of married couples have one of them doing better under their spouses record.

This is why marriage and not just playing house together can be important
That's true.

Of course in this forum recommending marriage is like -- if you'll excuse the expression -- preaching to the choir. Younger people need to heed this message.

Our preschool teacher at the church without retirement benefits must not have been married or wasn't married long enough to collect on a spouse's record.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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Aren't we all free to make personal choices? I don't think anyone is forcing anyone else to work at a religious affiliated school knowing they will not be paying into SS and not receiving benefits later on.
Who's fault is it that the woman in the original post doesn't received SS? The churches? No, it's her own.
Well, frankly such churches are not very Christian, either:

Timothy 5:8, KJV: "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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Well, frankly such churches are not very Christian, either:

Timothy 5:8, KJV: "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
That's not the point. No one makes anyone work for an affiliation that doesn't pay into SS. It's a choice.

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Old 06-25-2019, 07:22 AM
 
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That's not the point. No one makes anyone work for an affiliation that doesn't pay into SS. It's a choice.
That's not your point, but as a Christian, it's my point. That church may be exercising it's legal American option, but it is still wrong from a Christian point of view. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I know a lot of people who work as 'independent contractors'.

I did it for a few years. I was a 'vendor stocker' at a grocery store at night. The distributors pay around 25-cents for each case of grocery items to be stocked on the shelves on the grocery store.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:12 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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Me.... right now! im in that position and its not by choice, here in South Africa we have a saying

"sometimes you have to get a job, TO GET A JOB"

Basically means sometimes you have to take any **** job and then jump from there to better and better until you're ok with your deal.
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