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Old Yesterday, 11:13 AM
 
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Old Today, 09:34 AM
 
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Also, comparing anything to the Holocaust, that is not as horrific as the Holocaust, is offensive by its very nature and can be seen as minimizing the horror of that era.
Sure. But does comparing something to the Nazi work ethic equate to comparing something to the Holocaust?
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Old Today, 10:21 AM
 
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Sure. But does comparing something to the Nazi work ethic equate to comparing something to the Holocaust?
I think there was alot of miscommunication going on.
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Old Today, 10:47 AM
 
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Sure. But does comparing something to the Nazi work ethic equate to comparing something to the Holocaust?
Yes. You wouldn't say "we're building this highway to Hitler's Autobahn standards.
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Old Today, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes. You wouldn't say "we're building this highway to Hitler's Autobahn standards.
See, I think you have it completely backwards. Referring to the Nazi work ethic is not comparing anything to the Holocaust. Stating "yes, they are the same" (as you have just done) is.
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Old Today, 03:19 PM
 
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I understand the point he was trying to make (or the other poster) further upthread. It was that some people consider an emphasis on working long into one's old age can be a form of brainwashing or a form of strong persuasion through psychological techniques or trying to get people to follow a group ethic - even to the lack of necessity for it - a form of group-think.
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Old Today, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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In the Marketwatch.com article above, all of the negative characteristics occurring in retirement which may lead to an early death are voluntarily chosen by the retirees:

being sedentary

having fewer social interactions

increasing tobacco or alcohol use

other unhealthy behaviors not delineated, but would include a poor diet without enough nutritional healthy foods

The only voluntarily chosen factor which is not completely voluntary is possibly not having enough social interactions. Some people live rurally without a lot of interaction, others do not have adequate transportation. Or there are impediments to social interactions not wishing to be overcome. Others find it difficult to replicate the daily social interactions which were available while working.

With certain health problems one might be somewhat sedentary - but one can do hand weight lifting in one's house, rubber band exercises, floor exercises, have an exercise machine at home sometimes - all in one's home.

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“In short, retirement will have a negative impact on your health if you become more sedentary, have fewer social interactions, increase tobacco or alcohol use, or engage in any of a number of other unhealthy behaviors.
But it could be positive for your health, if for example you become more physically active or take more time to think carefully about what you eat.”

“After all, unhealthy behaviors have detrimental consequences no matter when they are incurred.”

“Why would taking early retirement lead to increased mortality? The evidence points to unhealthy changes in life style that often accompany retirement. For example, the professors point to other research that found male “retirees become sedentary, often watching more television.” Tellingly, there appears to be no increase in sedentariness among females after retirement, which may be a reason why there is a lower mortality rate among women who retire at age 62.”

“Unlike women, furthermore, male retirees in particular also appear to have fewer social interactions after they stop working, which other studies have found to have a negative impact on health. Still other studies have found there to be an increase in tobacco and alcohol use after stopping working.”
As a retiree, I finally have the time I have always wanted to exercise more! When I go to the gym during the day, it is full of retirees. Of course, I realize this is just a small percentage of the actual retirees in the area. We all make choices.
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Old Today, 04:15 PM
 
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I understand the point he was trying to make (or the other poster) further upthread. It was that some people consider an emphasis on working long into one's old age can be a form of brainwashing or a form of strong persuasion through psychological techniques or trying to get people to follow a group ethic - even to the lack of necessity for it - a form of group-think.
Yes, I agree that was the person's point. You sometimes see a reference to our public school system when such a point is made.
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