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Old 08-02-2019, 08:58 AM
 
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Thirty year pension benefits for non safety retires range between 40-60 percent of the average for the highest three earning years. Reform in some cases is raising that to the average of the highest five years.
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Old 08-02-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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You make a good point, but for retired public sector employees I personally know, it is more like $200K $400K per year in risk-free pension income, earned in jobs in high COL areas, who retired to no-state-income-tax Nevada. And they also have substantial financial assets.

It is almost always both pension & savings rather than just pension alone.
$200k - 400K a year in pension would be huge. Where in the public sector is such a thing even possible, I know for a fact that would be impossible for a federal employee.
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Old 08-02-2019, 10:36 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Average California state pension:

https://www.calpers.ca.gov/docs/form...retirement.pdf

I read that and thought we with our similar Utah state pension...we were on the same plane

Yes we have a healthy portfolio and our home paid off thanks to an inheritance.

But it’s nowhere near the $100-200K pensions mentioned here.
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Old 08-02-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Ha ha ha , I would never have retired if all I had was 3600 a month here...

I would be living in the hood...
From what you have described, you would lead a humble existence but would do OK. $3600 from you and $3600 from your wife gives you $86,000 a year. That should be enough, since by retirement you have already purchased all the junk you need.
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:03 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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My in-laws lived very well on $70k toward the end of their lives in LA County. Home was paid off and they had plenty of cash.

We figured we could live similarly. As long as we didn’t live in major metro areas.

We live near folks who live on way less...and NOT in retirement.
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: NYC
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there was a similar look at the various nyc neighborhoods .. i think going up to 40% of income for rent is pretty high though . that means you really need more income . .

https://ny.curbed.com/2019/8/1/20748...n-queens-bronx
Yes, I saw that yesterday, interesting how the explosion in housing costs is really centered in Brooklyn & creeping east & north into Queens. Ridgewood, formerly sleepy but attracting young people who 20 years ago would've moved to Williamsburg, rental costs up 27% in 5 years there.

I'm literally just on the other side of the tracks & bordering a neighborhood that costs $40K more per year to live/rent, prewar apartments vs new glass & steel condos with a view (sometimes). 2 subway stops & 5 minutes away, seems like a new tower going up there monthly.

If you haven't been to Williamsburg in years it's quite shocking to see the change there, it's like being in Manhattan now.
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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$200k - 400K a year in pension would be huge. Where in the public sector is such a thing even possible, I know for a fact that would be impossible for a federal employee.
There's a lot of squawking about a U of O football coach hauling down a $500k pension, but nobody said a word about paying him over a million bucks a year while he was working, His pension is still just 50% of his pre-retirement income.
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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NYC rents... That will change soon.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...de-11555560060
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:13 PM
 
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From what you have described, you would lead a humble existence but would do OK. $3600 from you and $3600 from your wife gives you $86,000 a year. That should be enough, since by retirement you have already purchased all the junk you need.
Nada Ning, with time junk consumption can go up. I am on a outdoor cooking buying binge. Just minutes ago ordered a over $300 temperature controller. Just had a rotisserie basket delivered earlier. Got a Sirloin tip spinning now, then wings. Company tomorrow with ribs and wings.
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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From what you have described, you would lead a humble existence but would do OK. $3600 from you and $3600 from your wife gives you $86,000 a year. That should be enough, since by retirement you have already purchased all the junk you need.
i dont think they meant 3600 x 2 ... we would not want to try to make in on 86k pretax here ... not a lifestyle we would be happy with . people can make it on any amount but that does not mean the lifestyle it buys is what you want. if all we had was 86k i would relocate .
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