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Old 08-05-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I need a retirement city that has good hospitals and services for people over 55 years old. Now I go too a eye doctor for treatments for low vision at St. Thomas hospital in Nashville. Needs also a low cost of living if possible which I know is hard too find any more.

At one time Spring Hill Tennesseel had no property taxes?
Spring Hill is getting a lot of spillover growth from people who can't afford Franklin/don't need to commute to Nashville daily, but still want to be in Williamson County. It has property taxes, but they are pretty low. Spring Hill is going to get a lot of white collar growth as Williamson County keeps growing. If it's working class, it probably won't remain so for too many more years.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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Maybe I haven't traveled enough but it seems to that not many places are strictly "working class". Most places we go are obviously a combination of various socio-economic classes. We live in a pretty ritzy area, and there are quite a few "blue collar" workers here, many of them make well over 100K.

I'm not that concerned with how people make their living. I'm sure we can find commonalities with most people. When looking at neighborhoods and such I am more concerned with lifestyle, no I don't like broke down cars in the yard, but I also don't like neighbors who will be judging what year our car is.

At $1,000 per water heater replacement, it's pretty easy for a plumber in an affluent town to net 6 figures. Where I live, there are several electricians with really nice yachts in the harbor. The electrician who wired my house is in a boat slip a couple down from where I used to keep my boat before I put it on a mooring. There are lots of upper middle class licensed trade people around me. Most of them have employees and run a small business.


At least in New England, it's highly socioeconomically segregated. Affluent people cluster in towns with expensive housing and preserve the price via zoning. If you don't allow multi-dwelling units and you have minimum lot size, frontage, and setback requirements, it's not possible to build lower cost housing. The only "acceptable" high density housing is senior housing since it doesn't put the demon spawn of the unwashed masses in the public school system.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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At $1,000 per water heater replacement, it's pretty easy for a plumber in an affluent town to net 6 figures. Where I live, there are several electricians with really nice yachts in the harbor. The electrician who wired my house is in a boat slip a couple down from where I used to keep my boat before I put it on a mooring. There are lots of upper middle class licensed trade people around me. Most of them have employees and run a small business.


At least in New England, it's highly socioeconomically segregated. Affluent people cluster in towns with expensive housing and preserve the price via zoning. If you don't allow multi-dwelling units and you have minimum lot size, frontage, and setback requirements, it's not possible to build lower cost housing. The only "acceptable" high density housing is senior housing since it doesn't put the demon spawn of the unwashed masses in the public school system.
Plumbers who own their business are small business men.
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Old 08-05-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Plumbers who own their business are small business men.
AND blue collar workers, they are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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If you are retiring in your fifties, I see the attraction of a larger home on acreage, although you will have to downsize as you continue to age. If you are retiring in your sixties, I want to caution you that age slows us down, and aging happens to all of us. My advice is to buy smaller, travel when you are newly retired, and live where you can afford to.

It is much easier to maintain a smaller place, especially if you travel a lot, than it is a large place. It is expensive to move. Imagine moving to a large place with acreage all around, and then having to move ten years later because it costs too much in effort and expense to maintain.

Most of us retain vigor throughout our sixties. But we start to slow down in our seventies. If there are underlying health problems, then this process accelerates.

Whatever you do, travel when you are relatively young.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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AND blue collar workers, they are not mutually exclusive.
Sure and that’s why this discussion is searching for boundaries and definitions. The plumber who owns his business in Roanoke can be very different than the one who owns and lives in Reston Virginia or in the case of the OP Bethesda.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Sure and that’s why this discussion is searching for boundaries and definitions. The plumber who owns his business in Roanoke can be very different than the one who owns and lives in Reston Virginia or in the case of the OP Bethesda.

But that's kinda my point, I don't see how these "boundaries and definitions" really matter, or apply for that matter.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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At $1,000 per water heater replacement, it's pretty easy for a plumber in an affluent town to net 6 figures. Where I live, there are several electricians with really nice yachts in the harbor. The electrician who wired my house is in a boat slip a couple down from where I used to keep my boat before I put it on a mooring. There are lots of upper middle class licensed trade people around me. Most of them have employees and run a small business.


At least in New England, it's highly socioeconomically segregated. Affluent people cluster in towns with expensive housing and preserve the price via zoning. If you don't allow multi-dwelling units and you have minimum lot size, frontage, and setback requirements, it's not possible to build lower cost housing. The only "acceptable" high density housing is senior housing since it doesn't put the demon spawn of the unwashed masses in the public school system.
I noticed some New England people are stuck up. When I was accepted to a MS at one of my colleges roommates and their boyfriends college, they speculated I was attending extension school. The school was too good for me. Bunch of spoiled rich kids, I must say, because I did graduate within one year. It was a piece of cake.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: equator
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AND blue collar workers, they are not mutually exclusive.
Yeah. DH designed and built solar installations. What would you label him?

My ex and I owned and operated a printing co. Working with the ole hands AND brain.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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But that's kinda my point, I don't see how these "boundaries and definitions" really matter, or apply for that matter.
On a broad general basis I fully agree. This thread started out about Bethesda v Roanoke and the specifics differences in those places. When the topic widened it became .......
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