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Old Yesterday, 01:13 PM
 
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Probably when people who make a lot of money wanted to see themselves as "Special". It goes something like this: Hey man WE WORK hard for our money.... but ehhh... real work... as in actually working... that's for people who don't make as much money as I do. And sweat. Hence the term "working class" to distinguish between those who are proud of their paychecks and those who should feel ashamed for needing to work. Or as Chris Matthews once put it: "The difference between the people who shower before they go to work and the people who shower when they get off work."

There's another retiree board I read. The well-moneied 7 and 8 figure 401K people who post there call themselves "High income producers." Not workers. That would also imply it's not easy for them. They are "producers." Show up and what... pull it out of a hat? Conjure it up by force of will? Whatever it is they do not like calling themselves workers unless of course someone implies they do not work as hard as someone with a hard dirty dangerous job.
I see this too. What a bunch of crap. People that think because they make a few bucks an hour more than someone else, they are no longer working class.
There's a quote from the movie Gone with the Wind. It goes something like this. "You can call a mule a horse but it's still a mule".

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Old Yesterday, 01:27 PM
 
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Well, where I come from suburban is working class. People leave their homes early in the morning to commute to work in various jobs. They work. I assume you also worked when you were living in the leafy suburban area you found to be a much higher quality of life, making you one of the local working class.
When did people living in suburbs stop being working class?
The working class town I'm in trends working poor to middle class. Very blue collar. Low college graduation rate. Not many white collar professional jobs. Mostly white and little diversity. Trumpland.

The suburban towns I was in basically flipped everything but the politics.
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Old Yesterday, 01:30 PM
 
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The working class town I'm in trends working poor to middle class. Very blue collar. Low college graduation rate. Not many white collar professional jobs. Mostly white and little diversity. Trumpland.

The suburban towns I was in basically flipped everything but the politics.
Both towns are working class. One has a higher average income than the other. Just because someone puts on a white shirt in the morning before leaving the house, it doesn't make them wealthy, privileged or special. Skin color also doesn't fit into the narrative and why you would bring it up is beyond me.
BTW, I'm pretty sure the guy who drives the garbage truck in my city probably makes a lot more money than the teller at the local bank wearing a white shirt. The guy driving the trash truck also gets a nice pension.

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Old Yesterday, 01:51 PM
 
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BTW, I'm pretty sure they guy who drives the garbage truck in my city probably makes more money than the teller at the local bank wearing a white shirt.

Boy have you got that right. And the garbage truck driver probably has better benefits too, if he's union and/or works directly for the Town or City government.
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Old Yesterday, 01:56 PM
 
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Both towns are working class. One has a higher average income than the other. Just because someone puts on a white shirt in the morning before leaving the house, it doesn't make them wealthy, privileged or special. Skin color also doesn't fit into the narrative and why you would bring it up is beyond me.
BTW, I'm pretty sure the guy who drives the garbage truck in my city probably makes a lot more money than the teller at the local bank wearing a white shirt. The guy driving the trash truck also gets a nice pension.
I never said the people in working-class towns were bad. In fact, I respect the hard physical work they dod and how down to earth they are. But a town that is wealthy and full of college-educated professionals have a different vibe. Opera and fine dining vs Nascar. French Food and Saks Firth Avenue vs Burger King and Walmart. You get the idea!
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Old Yesterday, 01:58 PM
 
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I never said the people in working-class towns were bad. In fact, I respect the hard physical work they dod and how down to earth they are. But a town that is wealthy and full of college-educated professionals have a different vibe. Opera and fine dining vs Nascar. French Food and Saks Firth Avenue vs Burger King and Walmart. You get the idea!
Nothing against your original post. It's another poster who puts on a white shirt, lives in a small town in TN and doesn't think he's a working class person that irked me. Sorry for the rant.
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Old Yesterday, 01:58 PM
 
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Skin color also doesn't fit into the narrative and why you would bring it up is beyond me.
Oh, I dont know, maybe because it's true?
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Old Yesterday, 02:01 PM
 
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One of the many things I have learned since I started reading posts on City-Data is that some people (not many, but some) take offense even when no offense is meant. Try not to let it bother you.

(This comment isn't directed to any one person, but is just a general observation.)
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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM
 
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Twice the home means nothing. Quality outweighs quantity. Unconventionally large lots put distance between neighbors. No community. Less socializing. Sounds depressing.

It's nice to hear neighborhood kids having fun.

The only good point is downsizing and making extra cash available for other things.

It's also nice to have a variety of amenities: shopping, medical, entertainment, public squares, stimulation, people watching.

Finally, living near kids and grand kids trumps everything else. Then comes climate.

They currently live in a cramped townhouse. A smaller SFH on a decent sized lot would be a breath of fresh air compared to a TH in Bethesda.

OP, figure out how much you use the amenities around you now, which ones are most important to you now and then find a place that has those same amenities.
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Old Yesterday, 03:08 PM
 
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Make sure you spend some time at your target area before you take the plunge.

People move out here to the "country" and then complain that there isn't a coffee shop, Whole Foods is too far etc.

They don't like the city services, the police, the internet service.

That is a big one around here - internet. They don't scope out the services for some reason.
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