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Old 08-01-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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Sad story on many fronts, but also baffling on others. Per information in the article and included statements from his wife, the deceased was a Retired Financial Planner, yet had no burial insurance/pre-paid final arrangements, had minimal savings, and his wife does not qualify for any of his benefits.

So either he failed to develop a survivorship plan for his spouse, or he failed to tell her there was a plan and what it included.

Sad story regardless.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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What article?
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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What article?
Sorry.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...fe/1875582001/
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:57 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Where do you get that he is a retired financial planner? I think his wife will get survivors benefit.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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My first reaction another insane shooting.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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Where do you get that he is a retired financial planner? I think his wife will get survivors benefit.


I had difficulty finding the same article that I read this morning. In the article I first read it stated:
  • he was a retired financial planner,
  • his wife had no money to pay for his cremation,
  • $5K had been donated toward funeral expenses via a Go fund Me account,
  • his wife had no idea what Go Fund Me was,
  • his wife claimed she no longer qualified for any of his benefits
The same story I first read is below:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-52nd-n1037246.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I had difficulty finding the same article that I read this morning. In the article I first read it stated:
  • he was a retired financial planner,
  • his wife had no money to pay for his cremation,
  • $5K had been donated toward funeral expenses via a Go fund Me account,
  • his wife had no idea what Go Fund Me was,
  • his wife claimed she no longer qualified for any of his benefits
The same story I first read is below:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-52nd-n1037246.
Sounds rather strange to know so little or nothing about a person one is married to for 52 yrs,
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Old 08-01-2019, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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Sounds rather strange to know so little or nothing about a person one is married to for 52 yrs,

Agreed. But there is a subset of the population in which the wives do not take any interest in the household finances and the husbands do not share this info. I have known co-workers in marriages like this. Their wives do not even drive - and in Michigan there is nearly zero public transportation! I strongly suspected the wife in one couple could not read, yet the husbands are educated people!


My wife and I met in Engineering School. I couldn't tolerate a marriage in which intelligent debate and discussion is missing.
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Old 08-01-2019, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Sad story on many fronts, but also baffling on others. Per information in the article and included statements from his wife, the deceased was a Retired Financial Planner, yet had no burial insurance/pre-paid final arrangements, had minimal savings, and his wife does not qualify for any of his benefits.

So either he failed to develop a survivorship plan for his spouse, or he failed to tell her there was a plan and what it included.

Sad story regardless.
Mr. Treadwell was on SSI. Welfare. I guess you must be allowed to supplement your SSI income by picking up odd jobs like Lyft. To wit:

You can begin to work and continue to receive SSI benefits as long as your wages and other resources do not exceed the SSA's income limit for SSI; however, your monthly benefit amount will be reduced in proportion to your income.
In general, the income limit for SSI is the federal benefit rate (FBR), which is $771 per month for an individual and $1,157 per month for a couple in 2019.

So their combined SSI/work income would have been capped at $1,157/month.

I don't understand how a 71 year old man ends up on SSI instead of Social Security, unless he was a self-employed financial planner and worked under the table, thus never made the employer/employee contributions to Social Security. Can anyone else come up with an alternate scenario, other than he simply didn't have 40 quarters yet?

I am sorry for Mrs. Treadwell. I think we are going to see more of this, meaning people who evaded the system and thus cannot benefit from the system. Makes life harder on their surviving loved ones.

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Old 08-01-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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My first reaction another insane shooting.
It was random, it appears - and it in no way reflects Lyft or Uber - those jobs do have hazards - but this is someone taking a pot shot from outside at a passing car. Lyft probably doesn't appreciate the negative publicity. This could have happened to anyone of us driving down a road or interstate.

He was working on their anniversary. I think he was trying to earn money for a trip or something.
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