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Old 08-07-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA
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No. Not even...Work isn't prison to the extent that the day you retire is the day you are set free. .
But it is for many, many people. You were obviously very fortunate to have loved your job but never assume others feel similarly.
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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No. Not even. If you like what you do, you'll never "work" a day in your life. Work isn't prison to the extent that the day you retire is the day you are set free. A lot of people stop being retired and go back to work or maybe some other easy job part time. Sitting around the house sucks. Most people hate fishing and golf.

I agree 100%. Seems like a lot people on here picked the wrong job and or career.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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I agree 100%. Seems like a lot people on here picked the wrong job and or career.

I don't think people necessarily pick the wrong job or career. A persons working life is long, and they only have limited control over it. A great job can turn into a lousy one by decisions made by managers above. A good supervisor can be replaced by a slave driver. Good co-workers can leave, rotten ones come on board. And when you are older, changing jobs is not easy. So there are many factors beyond the wrong career or job.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:27 PM
 
Location: equator
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I don't think people necessarily pick the wrong job or career. A persons working life is long, and they only have limited control over it. A great job can turn into a lousy one by decisions made by managers above. A good supervisor can be replaced by a slave driver. Good co-workers can leave, rotten ones come on board. And when you are older, changing jobs is not easy. So there are many factors beyond the wrong career or job.
Amen! I had the greatest job ever for 8 years, then the 9th year it became unbearable due to new management. I was severely depressed for that year.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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I don't think people necessarily pick the wrong job or career. A persons working life is long, and they only have limited control over it. A great job can turn into a lousy one by decisions made by managers above. A good supervisor can be replaced by a slave driver. Good co-workers can leave, rotten ones come on board. And when you are older, changing jobs is not easy. So there are many factors beyond the wrong career or job.

I have been self employed most of my adult life. Pretty much for the reasons you mentioned. I could not have others determining my destiny.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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I have 754 consecutive days left and cannot wait. That's about 400 work days.
Annuity and insurance paid await without dealing with all the people.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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I have been self employed most of my adult life. Pretty much for the reasons you mentioned. I could not have others determining my destiny.
I grew up working with my father who owned a business for 40 years ready for me to take over.
I saw all the people he had to deal with on regular basis and said no way.
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:44 PM
 
Location: California
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Can't relate,

My work was really fun / challenging, rewarding (invention, not pay), and had an excellent employer with GREAT benefits (who ruined me with flex time, no timeclocks, 7-10% profit sharing, 15 - 25% shift differential premiums, lots of volunteer opportunities and ability to take as much time without pay as desired, if I could find someone to take my workload.. Never any lay-offs in founder's history (62+ yrs)).

Good thing, ...as VERY unfortunately... an evil witch CEO (and subsequent (and current) US Presidential candidate) took over 5 yrs before I was eligible for retirement (32 yrs service). POOF GONE>>> Pensions, retiree healthcare, previous sick leave accruals (over 800 hours for me...) and 25+ worldwide employee / retirement recreation camps / ranches (free lodging WW as retiree / employee). As well as over 60% of the company's valuation. also... laid off 300,000 high tech workers >$100k wages each (aquired and company employees). For the grand prize of $40m Golden Parachute when she was finally FIRED...

So... Though I thought I was Golden (for 30+ yrs...), I had to make a new plan for retirement / future.

Beware companies / plans change! As you have found out... divorce / medical / mistakes.
Wow thatís terrible. Glad you could enjoy what you had before the management change.
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Old 08-07-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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Can't relate,

My work was really fun / challenging, rewarding (invention, not pay), and had an excellent employer with GREAT benefits (who ruined me with flex time, no timeclocks, 7-10% profit sharing, 15 - 25% shift differential premiums, lots of volunteer opportunities and ability to take as much time without pay as desired, if I could find someone to take my workload.. Never any lay-offs in founder's history (62+ yrs)).

Good thing, ...as VERY unfortunately... an evil witch CEO (and subsequent (and current) US Presidential candidate) took over 5 yrs before I was eligible for retirement (32 yrs service). POOF GONE>>> Pensions, retiree healthcare, previous sick leave accruals (over 800 hours for me...) and 25+ worldwide employee / retirement recreation camps / ranches (free lodging WW as retiree / employee). As well as over 60% of the company's valuation. also... laid off 300,000 high tech workers >$100k wages each (aquired and company employees). For the grand prize of $40m Golden Parachute when she was finally FIRED...

So... Though I thought I was Golden (for 30+ yrs...), I had to make a new plan for retirement / future.

Beware companies / plans change! As you have found out... divorce / medical / mistakes.
So sorry this happened to you!

HP had 25+ worldwide employee / retirement recreation camps / ranches?
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Old Yesterday, 08:34 PM
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Location: USA
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Nope.
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