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Old 08-13-2019, 06:59 AM
 
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It amazes me how insular and xenophobic Americans can be when it comes to health care. I’ve experienced health care at clinics and hospitals in Europe, South America, and Asia. Nothing serious, just cuts, abdominal pain (thought it could be appendicitis), and a severe cold. All I saw were competent people, clean facilities, and modern equipment. No dirt-floor huts or witch doctors. I’ve actually experienced worse attitudes and facilities at hospitals here in the USA.

Unlike here in the the USA, no ER doctor tried to bill me $1250 for a 15-minute consultation, or $650 for a saline iv bag. I paid cash or used a credit card for the services in these other countries and that was it. IIRC the most expensive procedure was a CT scan in Santiago, about 70,000 pesos or $150 USD.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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It amazes me how insular and xenophobic Americans can be when it comes to health care. I’ve experienced health care at clinics and hospitals in Europe, South America, and Asia. Nothing serious, just cuts, abdominal pain (thought it could be appendicitis), and a severe cold. All I saw were competent people, clean facilities, and modern equipment. No dirt-floor huts or witch doctors. I’ve actually experienced worse attitudes and facilities at hospitals here in the USA.

Unlike here in the the USA, no ER doctor tried to bill me $1250 for a 15-minute consultation, or $650 for a saline iv bag. I paid cash or used a credit card for the services in these other countries and that was it. IIRC the most expensive procedure was a CT scan in Santiago, about 70,000 pesos or $150 USD.
I've only had to see a doctor in a foreign country once. Italy - well the island of Sicily. I was stationed at a militray base there and broke a foot. When it was time to take off my cast, i was sent to a local hospital. It was nice. No big deal.

I knew of other people that had surgery and other procedure there. They were fine

I have a relative that goes to Cancun for some procedures.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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I have a friend whose hubby had a heart incident in Spain. She said the care was excellent! She was amazed, and they live in a large metropolitan city with plenty of hospitals and doctors, but this topped it.

I have other friends who have procedures done here in the states - 75% develop some infection and have to spend weeks on intravenous antibiotics. Crazy.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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Isn't anecdotal evidence fun?
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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Isn't anecdotal evidence fun?
Yes!!! The natural high is restored!!
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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The thing that struck me in that article was the cost of the metal knee joint. It is about $3000 in Mexico and $8000 in the US. I had heard that there is a huge markup in artificial joints because of monopolistic practices in which hospitals sign agreements with the US company that makes them to not allow any other joint to be used by the surgeons. Otherwise the patient could mail order a knee joint from Mexico and have the surgeon put that one in, and save $5k.

This is another example of how our system is really broken. Too many backroom deals being struck with no transparency to the consumer or ability to comparison shop.
Yes.

Also, don't forget the Obamacare tax on artificial joints.
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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Isn't flying these days a lot like a colonoscopy anyway?
That made me smile.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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Isn't anecdotal evidence fun?
Almost as funny as the cost of health care here in the U.S.A., 3X to 10X the cost of the comparable services in other developed countries. A real knee slapper — hahahahaha!
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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Yes.

Also, don't forget the Obamacare tax on artificial joints.
Sure! Brilliant! The cost of the device in the US - $8000, in Mexico - $3500. And, you are blaming it on the 2.3% tax on artificial joints. Couldn’t get more rational, could it?
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:48 PM
 
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The travel time more than wiped out any profit. He actually lost money. I'm sure he could have done five to ten knees just in the time it took to fly there and back. Even at $900 a pop, that's a lot more money.


Whoopie.

Keep in mind this article is promoted by one of the most notorious health care providers in the U.S., Kaiser. I'm sure they would love to send their pts to Mexico, they just have to get people used to the idea first.
Actually Kaiser Health is not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente at all
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