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Old 08-15-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE
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I was going to ask sammy the bull if they were fixated on the SW, and if they had considered the SE.

To me, the SW, even in the higher elevs can be just as brutal summers as SE, which may be why OP is fixated on SW.

OP mentions $3-400k fir housing, in some areas close to major Cities in SE that can buy you a mansion.
Housing in SE CAN be cheap. Thst is not to say that everwhere SE is cheap, especially the major cities.

We settled on one retirement locale, but then found 3 more. We nixed one of the 4 as it just doesn't offer what we will need in retirement. So that leaves 3, but we keep coming back to tte first one. They are spread all across the southern half of the USA.

Good luck to all who seek the *perfect* retirement locale.



No place is perfect

Understood, and thanks galaxyhi. Sammy the bull clarifies: It's only Sammy the bull (divorced, but who knows?--- no "they" at least now). Not particularly fixed on SW v.s. SE. I've considered parts of TN and GA, that might not be quite as hot/humid and buggy. Sammy the bull doesn't like mosquitoes particularly. I had Knoxville on the short list. While I'd rather remain politically neutral -- especially on this forum, I do lean left and some of the SE states seem to be a bit further right for my liking. I realize that's a generalization.



And for the record, not seeking perfection, just some friendly advice, experiences, and knowledge from others.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Understood, and thanks galaxyhi. Sammy the bull clarifies: It's only Sammy the bull (divorced, but who knows?--- no "they" at least now). Not particularly fixed on SW v.s. SE. I've considered parts of TN and GA, that might not be quite as hot/humid and buggy. Sammy the bull doesn't like mosquitoes particularly. I had Knoxville on the short list. While I'd rather remain politically neutral -- especially on this forum, I do lean left and some of the SE states seem to be a bit further right for my liking. I realize that's a generalization.

And for the record, not seeking perfection, just some friendly advice, experiences, and knowledge from others.
At least here in the southeast, you really need to be at around 3000' or so of elevation before the heat and humidity start to get cut down. Here in Tennessee, the problem is that most of the land at that level is protected park or forestland and can't be developed.

I live and work in northeast TN. My office is just a nose below 1200' in elevation. Between the low elevation and "heat island" effect, it's been around 90 here for at least a couple weeks and high dew points. I used to work in nearby southwest VA at an office around 2200'. That place was a lot more tolerable.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Gainesville is an interesting choice. What do you think about crime though?
When I lived there in the 90s it had very low crime. It was pretty safe in the surrounding suburbs, and you knew to stay away from the student 'ghettos'.

But I just looked, and found out that crime has increased in the last few years.

https://www.gainesville.com/news/201...as-crime-rises

The article attributes it to gangs! I guess you would have to look at a Hot Map to see where the crime activity is high.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: plano
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Things I know about me now vs 10 years before I retired.

Healthcare healthcare healthcare are top three now not then.
Traffic was not a concern then nor now. I can do things on my schedule including avoiding rush hour do few suburban locations are out.

Hurricane seem like way too much trouble now vs then. Energy level changes how I look at things now.

Humidity I hated then now it's a sign of more likely abundant water for human use so SW is SE have flipped in appeal.

I like to plan too just know your priorities may shift and not as mind have but to suit your pace and rhythm.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Sammythebull & Hefe are on a similar path, I'm considering all the places you listed too. Problem is I haven't really spent time in any of them or just barely. On paper - in theory only - Tucson/Green Valley has my attention & lately Phoenix/Sun City does as well since it is a major city which I might be more used to. Thing is I've never visited yet, maybe this winter. The HEAT season: I wonder if I'm in a community with pools & indoor rec centers & also take vacations out of town then if that's workable.

I didn't like Mesquite - too isolated - Las Vegas could be ok but I keep hearing it's just plain subdivisions in the empty desert + the Strip. I've been to the Strip many times, not the subdivisions. The area around St George Ut is much more beautiful but it does have the shadow of the LDS church over things, could be manageable, Ivins is gorgeous but getting pricey, I was there this past March. I have barely stopped in Sante Fe many years ago.

Besides money & climate I would look into healthcare quality & availability more. Like you I don't care for Dixie for a number of reasons. I lived in the mountain west for a number of years & found that the politics is generally live & let live conservative which is fine with me & different from the southeast in that & the bug quotient.

Through my heritage I was able to get an EU passport a number of years ago & I spent a month recently in Portugal which impressed me, I'll go back in the winter.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Sammythebull & Hefe are on a similar path, I'm considering all the places you listed too. Problem is I haven't really spent time in any of them or just barely. On paper - in theory only - Tucson/Green Valley has my attention & lately Phoenix/Sun City does as well since it is a major city which I might be more used to. Thing is I've never visited yet, maybe this winter. The HEAT season: I wonder if I'm in a community with pools & indoor rec centers & also take vacations out of town then if that's workable.

I didn't like Mesquite - too isolated - Las Vegas could be ok but I keep hearing it's just plain subdivisions in the empty desert + the Strip. I've been to the Strip many times, not the subdivisions. The area around St George Ut is much more beautiful but it does have the shadow of the LDS church over things, could be manageable, Ivins is gorgeous but getting pricey, I was there this past March. I have barely stopped in Sante Fe many years ago.

Besides money & climate I would look into healthcare quality & availability more. Like you I don't care for Dixie for a number of reasons. I lived in the mountain west for a number of years & found that the politics is generally live & let live conservative which is fine with me & different from the southeast in that & the bug quotient.

Through my heritage I was able to get an EU passport a number of years ago & I spent a month recently in Portugal which impressed me, I'll go back in the winter.

Thanks, Hefe. Good info. here. I had also looked at St. G/Ivins. Ivins (less hustle and bustle) seemed like a decent option, hang out with the mountain views, maybe have a pool to relax in. I thought the LDS-thing might actually work to my advantage in that I could sort of be left alone. But I'm not sure about that level of isolation and I've read numerous posts that indicate that the area has a lot of things that don't sound so swell (e.g. high heat in summer and snakes), although that may be overblown.



Good info. on Mesquite. I like the proximity to LV in that concerts or restaurants are intriguing, but LV has changed so much over the years I'm not sure I have much interest anymore (e.g. traffic). I preferred "old" downtown vegas where you could have a blast playing 25 cent craps at the Golden Gate.



Issue with southern AZ that is of concern is heat and water. Taxes seem Ok, but that is also a concern. On paper, I look at taxes in my state and I could likely easily cut those in half just by moving. Good luck in your search, Hefe.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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I had also looked at St. G/Ivins. Ivins (less hustle and bustle) seemed like a decent option, hang out with the mountain views, maybe have a pool to relax in. I thought the LDS-thing might actually work to my advantage in that I could sort of be left alone. But I'm not sure about that level of isolation and I've read numerous posts that indicate that the area has a lot of things that don't sound so swell (e.g. high heat in summer and snakes), although that may be overblown.
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I would think twice about St G if you don't like heat. Every day this week the temps will be over 100 degrees. Same last week. Same next week.

I would also recommend you think twice before entering an area with a very high percentage of Latter Day Saints. It is not just a religion for the weekends. It is a major part of the community and everyday life.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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I'd likely have about $350-$400 to spend on a house; however, lower taxes are also a consideration. In my state, on a house valued at $310,000 I pay almost $6,000/yr in taxes.


Thus far, I'm intrigued by the Oro Valley (AZ) area (maybe too hot, but being inside or at the pool during the summer months doesn't sound like a bad trade off), Rio Rancho (NM) (cooler, and like the idea to hop on the train to Sante Fe for day trips, but wonder about crime in NM), parts of Nevada - Mesquite intrigues me, but seems pretty hot in the summer and a bit too golf-centric, northern Nevada (Reno/Gardnerville/Minden) also seems attractive but home prices seem crazy high for what they are, and Utah (likely southern), which while the LDS thing seems a bit of a barrier to join groups (e.g. tennis, bike riding, etc.), although it may work to my advantage in that there may be a greater likelihood of being left alone.


Thanks for any suggestions! I realize I need to visit places, but I'm asking for help in coming up with a list for that purpose.
I graduated from K State and lived in Manhattan for 8 years, so I am intimately familiar with Kansas and Nebraska weather. You cannot compare the weather there with southern Arizona, they are not even remotely similar. It won't get anywhere close to the level of cold and wind in the winter, and as another poster said, altitude changes everything.

Typical Green Valley summer days are 95-100, maybe a bit higher on occasion, but with virtually no humidity. Compared with 100-105 degrees in Nebraska/Kansas and high humidity. Also, all of your taxes will be significantly lower, think half or less, in southern Arizona.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:33 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Besides money & climate I would look into healthcare quality & availability more.
I think that is a good point and it is a bit subjective -- different for everyone. I moved from a small town in rural Missouri where medical care was OK but not wonderful. We had two hospitals. The next bigger town had a university teaching hospital and several others. The several counties around me had no hospitals at all. You expected delays for routine medical attention. Where I moved to (Rio Rancho, NM), I am very happy with my PCP doctor -- best of the last four I have had and it is easy to get in to see him. There can be significant delays to see a specialist, however. I had that kind of delay before I moved. I had a hip replacement here a year ago and it was an excellent experience with a great surgeon and easy recovery. I just got over the shingles and went to urgent care at the email (we email with minor issues) advice of my doctor just to get it identified. They confirmed it was shingles and prescribed an anti-viral and everything was hunky-dory as far as I was concerned. If a person comes from a place with super fast appointments and minimal delays to see a specialist and/or has a lot of medical issues they might think less of the healthcare situation in a place than someone in good health and relatively flexible in their needs.
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Old 08-16-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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The wife and I spent 7 years taking one or two road trips each year to find a state and City with a moderate climate, good and nearby medical system, City with some culture, community activities, either mountains or water views from our house, a half acre of property, low taxes, affordable real estate, in an area close to other areas of interest and a must have for lots of outdoor activities. We thought it was going to be Asheville, NC until we started looking at houses!

As it turned out we found all that we we looking for and are very happy in S.W. Virginia!
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