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Old 08-17-2019, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Southern California native, last 20 yrs in Milwaukee Wisc.
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Tried it in both capsule and oil form, for a couple of different conditions it is supposed to be good for.
Did not get one iota of benefit. I don't think these CBD products will be effective unless you can get one that has some THC component to it. My personal opinion is that those claiming benefit from CBD-only products may be having a bit of a placebo effect, as happens with many other people and their supplements that they swear by, despite zero studies showing their efficacy. If supplements actually did the things they are purported to do, big pharma would be all over it and producing prescription drugs utilizing those natural ingredients.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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reminds me of the origins of "snake oil".
it Used To Be actual snake oil which reduced
inflammation for the Chinese working on the railroad,
and then the word got out about that, which led to
con men entering the game. CBD might work, i just
cannot trust that pure CBD is what i am buying.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:57 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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reminds me of the origins of "snake oil".
it Used To Be actual snake oil which reduced
inflammation for the Chinese working on the railroad,
and then the word got out about that, which led to
con men entering the game. CBD might work, i just
cannot trust that pure CBD is what i am buying.
It's not that hard to research.

You can even do a Yelp search.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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John.....I have been using CBD oil,for my arthritis. It helps, when I rub it on my hips, before bed. It really helps me sleep better. My DH, uses it, on his heel, for Planters Fastisits (sp), before golf. It does help him.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:45 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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I was having problems with my shoulder - it's not rotator cuff, but a bursitis and adhesion issue and when it gets bad I can't lift my arm/elbow above my shoulder. Previously I had to have cortizone shots inside the joint to free it up, which only sort of worked (and hurt like heck, any shot for which you need 3 numbing shots first is not a good thing).

I've tried various things over the years, from acupuncture to several different types of massage and manipulation (some of which also hurt like heck) and various external lotions, potions and creams - plus, of course, a lot of physical therapy and strengthening exercizes. I tried a locally produced external CBD oil, which worked better than anything else I tried, and then I tried a 50/50 THC/CBD lotion which worked extremely well. I was really surprised. Glad they are legal where I live. There is no "high" from it, although I am careful to wash my hands after I apply it.

My beloved old dog is starting to have problems with arthritis and general stiffness and pain. The vet gave her dog ibuprofen but it really messed with her blood chemistry results. One of the local stores specializes in veterinary CBD and we tried several different formulations and finally found one that seems to ease her stiffness and she doesn't seem to be in pain, at least as far as I can tell.

Internal use for humans I'd probably be a bit more cautious about - there is a lot of BS out there, in both directions, about CBD and finding a trustworthy source is iffy.
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Old 08-17-2019, 06:28 PM
 
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My dog uses "Vet CBD," which is a 20:1 ratio of CBD:THC. It really helps him and may be keeping him alive.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:55 AM
 
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I'm doing it now because I've read good things about it. Please note, it's one of those treatments you need to experiment with to determine the optimum dosage for you. It slowed my resting heart-rate down to a better rate and as a result I feel better and less anxious. Shocking that since the treatment, I've slept throughout the night without a single disturbance. That's rare. lol

There are side effects. That's why you have to play with the dosage amount. I started with a full + 1/2 dropper under the tongue. I got all the side effects for the next four hours. The next day I reduced it to 1/2 a dropper under the tongue which seems to be the best dosage for me. It is expensive, but I spend more on my vitamins/supplements and all of the above contribute to good health.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:57 AM
 
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I live in a state where it’s legal & bought it in another state where it’s legal and of good quality. I bought a bottle of CBD oil for insomnia. I don’t remember the strength, it was maximum available, a recommended brand from a recommended store. It didn’t help at all, & it wasn’t cheap. No THC in it. I’m not spending any more $$$ on it.

OTH, someone I know has a topical CBD stick that they use for osteoarthritis & they swear by it. I had a flareup from an old injury & borrowed it & it did seem to work to bring down the inflammation & pain...not a placebo effect, IMO.

For anyone who tries edible for insomnia, be careful. They sneak up on you, and the THC can make you paranoid, which certainly doesn’t help you sleep...way different experience than burning a doobie back in the day.
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Old 08-18-2019, 04:41 AM
 
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The only way to really know whether CBD oil has any true physiological effect would be to not know whether you were using it that night or for a couple of weeks----where you would be using it blindly, rubbing it into your skin or swallowing drops or gummies and then later evaluating whether it made you feel better. You'd need to have someone give you gummies, drops, or cream with CBD oil and then without it.


You can't discount the placebo effect. Amazon actually sells placebos. Usually a placebo works because the person doesn't know it's a placebo, but these are labelled and sold as placebos. 50% of the buyers gave it 5 stars!
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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Dispensaries vet their CBD products - rumor has that many of the products sold online might be bogus - so you really have to trust your source.

The whole plant is more beneficial.
This right here. If you're in a legal state you have access to effective CBD products. If you're in a state without legal MJ the CBD oil you're getting is from seed oil and isn't worth the label on the bottle.
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