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Old 09-08-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Nothing phony about it, it’s all based on factual speculation and truthful hypothesis. Call me I will come up with the truth you want to hear. It may take some time.



Let's see where to start. R U an insider trader? Well that's what you are up against when you sink your savings into stocks on the market. Where do you think our politicians made their fortunes? Until recently. Lots of books on the subject. Also looking at candles or color lines on a graph gives you historical knowledge. But didn't you hear? Most of the day-to-day trading on the markets are done with algorithms in microseconds with some traders having an advantage because they are, in distance, located closer to wall Street. So what you discern or dig up is very old news.


Here's a tip. Buy low; sell high. Hold your positions in good stocks for long intervals.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Volunteering and gardening.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Let's see where to start. R U an insider trader? Well that's what you are up against when you sink your savings into stocks on the market. Where do you think our politicians made their fortunes? Until recently. Lots of books on the subject. Also looking at candles or color lines on a graph gives you historical knowledge. But didn't you hear? Most of the day-to-day trading on the markets are done with algorithms in microseconds with some traders having an advantage because they are, in distance, located closer to wall Street. So what you discern or dig up is very old news.


Here's a tip. Buy low; sell high. Hold your positions in good stocks for long intervals.
here is better tip , buy high and sell higher .

we all know the saying buy low sell high. great idea but rarely can anyone really do it consistantly.

why?

there is another saying " objects in motion stay in motion , until they hit something .

falling prices tend to feed on themselves and go lower until they don't. know one knows what low is because we all thought low in 2008-2009 was when the market fell 1000 points.

well that momentum turned into 5000 and 6000 points. people lost their shirt trying to buy low.

a better saying is buy high and sell higher. when that trend is already moving up that upward momentum may be the better time to buy . buy high and sell higher may be a whole lot more profitable but you never hear that.

why?

because the people who know don't tell , and the people who tell don't know.
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Old 09-08-2019, 02:22 PM
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Let's see where to start. R U an insider trader? Well that's what you are up against when you sink your savings into stocks on the market. Where do you think our politicians made their fortunes? Until recently. Lots of books on the subject. Also looking at candles or color lines on a graph gives you historical knowledge. But didn't you hear? Most of the day-to-day trading on the markets are done with algorithms in microseconds with some traders having an advantage because they are, in distance, located closer to wall Street. So what you discern or dig up is very old news.


Here's a tip. Buy low; sell high. Hold your positions in good stocks for long intervals.
And those algorithms can move a stock to an extreme and create an opportunity for a regular person to step in and make a quick profit. Not always, but sometimes.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I am a part-time wine consultant at a very large liquor store (two days a week), and my take-home averages $800 a month. Pretty good for doing work I love -- I always tell people that I have a paid hobby! A side benefit is that it is good exercise as I lift an average of about twenty 40-lb cases of wine during a shift and walk an average of a mile an hour. (One of my co-workers has some kind of pedometer and that is what he averages, anyway.)
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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My wife was thinking of working at the candle store but only on the wickends
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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here is better tip , buy high and sell higher .

we all know the saying buy low sell high. great idea but rarely can anyone really do it consistantly.
why?
there is another saying " objects in motion stay in motion , until they hit something .
falling prices tend to feed on themselves and go lower until they don't. know one knows what low is because we all thought low in 2008-2009 was when the market fell 1000 points.
well that momentum turned into 5000 and 6000 points. people lost their shirt trying to buy low.
a better saying is buy high and sell higher. when that trend is already moving up that upward momentum may be the better time to buy . buy high and sell higher may be a whole lot more profitable but you never hear that.
why?because the people who know don't tell , and the people who tell don't know.



Let's talk about market timing which I think the poster is speaking about. Or not. It's hard to tell. Market timing is a bad idea.



Is it possible to buy low or sell high stock as the market as a whole goes through gyrations. No. Meaning you can't pick with certainty where you get on the roller coaster. You take a seat and it could descend like an elevator from hell.



As a lay person, a smart investor re-invests the dividends of stock already held, and/or a fixed percentage of his\her income into the market whether its up or down. This is called averaging. Over a long period the stock market should give you good returns.



Now selling is a different story. If you need cash, then sell those shares that have made you money that have a higher value than your basis. That is sell high, buy low.



Although I have to admit, when the market takes a beating I smile and buy stocks.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Capital Region, NY
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I plan to give golf lessons and do some local writing or journalism. Not sure it will last, though. I’m guessing if I had to do it I might not continue to enjoy it anymore. I plan on making a total break from this career once I do retire, though.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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Default Market Timing and Dollar averaging

Let's talk about market timing which I think the poster is speaking about. Or not. It's hard to tell. Market timing is a bad idea.



Is it possible to buy low or sell high stock as the market as a whole goes through gyrations. No. Meaning you can't pick with certainty where you get on the roller coaster. You take a seat and it could descend like an elevator from hell.



As a lay person, a smart investor re-invests the dividends of stock already held, and/or a fixed percentage of his\her income into the market whether its up or down. This is called averaging. Over a long period the stock market should give you good returns.



Now selling is a different story. If you need cash, then sell those shares that have made you money that have a higher value than your basis. That is sell high, buy low.



Although I have to admit, when the market takes a beating I smile and buy stocks.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:46 PM
 
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My wife was thinking of working at the candle store but only on the wickends
Or she could eke out a living raising mice for laboratories.
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