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Old 09-18-2019, 07:28 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by PAhippo View Post
sounds like you're basing a relationship on looks.


for me, yea, financial security is essential but I value personality more than looks.


to each their own.
Personality helps but sorry I don’t want to date a patient. Someone can tell a lot about someone from how they look for a general health sense. I can tell when someone is grossly overweight and most likely operating a pharmaceutical company of meds or should be. Someone who’s a heart attack waiting to happen. Someone who’s been abusing their body for years with excessive alcohol or smoking or drugs and looks twenty years older than they are because of all this.
My father was a chronic alcoholic, a very heavy smoker and a severe diabetic. Toward the end he ended up having one of his legs amputated at the knee due to complications from years of hard living. I saw a lot of medical pain and anguish growing up , so I don’t want that now, and though there’s no guarantee in life, I’d rather not put myself in the situation of being a nurse to somebody. If you care to do that knock yourself out. Like you said, to each their own.
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: California
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I'll agree with that. The good guys are still either married or far in between. The odds have reversed for most males and females from the time we were all 20 years old.

As a 60's male who still takes care of himself it's easy to have all the dates you want. The supply of good males get's even less as the years go on.

Many of my old buddies look like you describe. Much of it is due to inactivity and too much alcohol use.

My 2 main top criteria in dating when I divorced at 57 was 1. The could no longer reproduce and 2. They could not look like my grandmother.
Sounds good. Now we need more men like you out here.
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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I'll play. This picture was taken a week ago Sunday.
looking good!
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Old 09-18-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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my wife tells me she doesn't understand why american women seem so hostile towards men . . . .
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that's another stereotype. . .
The real prevailing stereotype is the "toxic masculinity" stereoscope which it seems the majority of American women have bought into to one degree or another these days. How is even possible to build a healthy relationship with someone who regards you as toxic because of your gender?

Those men who think they can redeem themselves by groveling are an even sadder case. In the end all they reap is contempt -- which goes a long ways towards explaining why so many American men are reported to have a problem with erectile dysfunction these days.
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Old 09-19-2019, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I'll play. This picture was taken a week ago Sunday.

not going to guess because I've never been good at guessing people's ages but whatever you're doing, keep doing it.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:09 AM
 
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The real prevailing stereotype is the "toxic masculinity" stereoscope which it seems the majority of American women have bought into to one degree or another these days. How is even possible to build a healthy relationship with someone who regards you as toxic because of your gender?

Those men who think they can redeem themselves by groveling are an even sadder case. In the end all they reap is contempt -- which goes a long ways towards explaining why so many American men are reported to have a problem with erectile dysfunction these days.
Wow, are you a yoga instructor? Cause that’s quite a stretch.

In what specific ways are you seeing the majority of American women of retirement age embracing the idea of toxic masculinity?

And please cite your research about the link between erectile disfunction and subservient men.
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:46 AM
 
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Wow, are you a yoga instructor? Cause that’s quite a stretch.

In what specific ways are you seeing the majority of American women of retirement age embracing the idea of toxic masculinity?

And please cite your research about the link between erectile disfunction and subservient men.
Hardly a day goes by without an article in major media like the New York Times or Washington Post about “toxic masculinity “ or “the patriarchy.” The hostility towards men and masculinity in America is so pervasive though that it’s hard to see it anymore unless you spend significant time outside the U.S., as I do, where the “toxic masculinity/patriarchy” stereotypes are absent. My wife, for one, clearly sees it. We have a home in the U.S. while our children are attending high school and my wife stays there during the school year while I’m in Asia most of the time on business. She reports that there’s a difference between the way many women — particularly older American women — treat her when we’re out together in public versus when she’s by herself. Together, there’s an aloofness or frostiness that she never experiences when she’s by herself. Initially she thought it was racism but now sees that I have to be present to stir it up so it’s some sort of convoluted sexism instead.
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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Hardly a day goes by without an article in major media like the New York Times or Washington Post about “toxic masculinity “ or “the patriarchy.” The hostility towards men and masculinity in America is so pervasive though that it’s hard to see it anymore unless you spend significant time outside the U.S., as I do, where the “toxic masculinity/patriarchy” stereotypes are absent. My wife, for one, clearly sees it. We have a home in the U.S. while our children are attending high school and my wife stays there during the school year while I’m in Asia most of the time on business. She reports that there’s a difference between the way many women — particularly older American women — treat her when we’re out together in public versus when she’s by herself. Together, there’s an aloofness or frostiness that she never experiences when she’s by herself. Initially she thought it was racism but now sees that I have to be present to stir it up so it’s some sort of convoluted sexism instead.
I thought you and your family were living outside the US. Why send your kids to American schools if they might become indoctrinated to this toxic masculinity thing? Are they female or male?
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:56 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Hardly a day goes by without an article in major media like the New York Times or Washington Post about “toxic masculinity “ or “the patriarchy.” The hostility towards men and masculinity in America is so pervasive though that it’s hard to see it anymore unless you spend significant time outside the U.S., as I do, where the “toxic masculinity/patriarchy” stereotypes are absent. My wife, for one, clearly sees it. We have a home in the U.S. while our children are attending high school and my wife stays there during the school year while I’m in Asia most of the time on business. She reports that there’s a difference between the way many women — particularly older American women — treat her when we’re out together in public versus when she’s by herself. Together, there’s an aloofness or frostiness that she never experiences when she’s by herself. Initially she thought it was racism but now sees that I have to be present to stir it up so it’s some sort of convoluted sexism instead.
You read the wrong paper. Get the WSJ.
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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You read the wrong paper. Get the WSJ.
i read both of those - and i don't recall anything like that
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