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Old 09-16-2019, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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The only losers I see are people who've somehow managed to get to this age but still haven't learned a damned thing.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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After, say, 50, or in retirement, does it make sense to consider yourself and others winners or losers in life?
Question bothers me.
Does happiness make you a winner? What you think?
I think I have no right to judge other people and try not to and I never think in terms of "winner" or "loser".

I am grateful, I feel fortunate, and I am happy. That is all I know.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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My opinion, to simply survive in to old age makes you a winner (to some degree). Life can be treacherous, survival (in & of it's self) is an accomplishment.

Happiness is a nice bonus..
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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After, say, 50, or in retirement, does it make sense to consider yourself and others winners or losers in life?
No it doesn't make sense.


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Does happiness make you a winner? What you think?
I don't get this "winner" or "loser" false duality construct. It's seems an artificial and arbitrary way of judging when there's no reason to judge a fellow human in the first place.

Everyone is here in this life for a purpose. Some know their purpose and others are seeking it, but ultimately no one is better than anyone else and certainly not because they are measured by someone else's criteria. How limiting is that, and why be limited?

By the end of a life, has a soul experienced all it was meant to during this recent life in order to continue along its path of evolving? That's how I look at the issue, with no judgement or measurement or "winner" / "loser" label to it.

YMMV
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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carnelian: Why is this so important to you?

Ask yourself....... are you a winner or a loser? Your opinion is the only one that counts.

Letting other people tell you one way or the other is a dangerous thing.

Think about the environment. Makes a lot more sense to worry about that.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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As a generally happy person, I say who cares about the labels winner or loser? They are meaningless.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Life really isn't a game but we sometimes think in those terms. Never compare yourself to the accomplishments of others because they probably didn't start where you started and they had a different playing field. You set your own goals and standards and try to live up to them. Sometimes you have to adjust the goal posts or even the "game". If you are close to the mark, you are a winner. If you failed miserably, it could be for any number of reasons. Don't let someone else's accomplishments, or lack thereof, make you the judge/critic of your own life.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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Older people have managed to live a long time without dying, so I'll say they're winners.


Otherwise, the topic is too general for me to answer.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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The only people are losers are people who think there are winners and losers in life...
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:32 PM
 
Location: DFW
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In your spare time go walk around one of the old Town cemeteries. You'll see graves of children 2-3 year old and many people who have died even younger than your current age.

Always makes me feel like a winner.
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