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Old 09-26-2019, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Kountze, Texas
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We sure do.
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Old 09-26-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Kountze, Texas
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Because we get pensions and health care benefits? Believe me, we suffer for them.

We sure do.
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Old 09-26-2019, 02:35 PM
 
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A lot of the entitlement I see comes from government workers.
Absolutely. Among other reasons, they typically see their jobs as 100% secure. Personally I made a decision not to ever work for the government. The jobs tended to be mind numbing with minimal freedom, minimal rewards for performance and with coworkers who were often bottom feeders.
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Old 09-26-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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LOL, so you're saying that you had no options and thus stuck with an underpaid, demeaning, intolerable working conditions, terrible boss, rather than look for a new job. You are certainly entitled to this and I congratulate you for your steadfast approach dealing with humiliating circumstances.
I never said any such thing. Some of the jobs deteriorated. I completed a job search, handed in my resignation and started work elsewhere.
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Old 09-26-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Absolutely. Among other reasons, they typically see their jobs as 100% secure. Personally I made a decision not to ever work for the government. The jobs tended to be mind numbing with minimal freedom, minimal rewards for performance and with coworkers who were often bottom feeders.
Exactly. My husband and I stayed away from defense jobs, government jobs, then we got to Great Recession and he was near 60.
My husband almost didn’t take the job, I said to give it a try. Worst job ever, his health got worse because of it, that’s why we retired as soon as we can.
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Old 09-26-2019, 03:21 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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We sure do.
Exactly, my husband wanted to quit ASAP. And he did nothing there, he wanted to do something useful.
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Old 09-26-2019, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Florida -
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In the 2008 time-frame, companies were downsizing and often offering buyout packages. I was thinking about retiring at 62 anyway, but, went instead at 61, with a full-year paid buyout.

In good years, there are fewer of these buyouts around, but, it's still worth checking-out with HR, before simply getting upset and jumping ship.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:03 PM
 
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Several people have written about being fed up and just quitting. They feel "entitled" to quit because they don't like their bosses or work environment. They feel entitled to a work place made for them with bosses they like and who will give them the level of privilege and treatment they deserve. I never felt that level of entitlement and for most of my life never had the freedom to up and quit. Among other reasons I had a family to support, college for the kids, and retirement to think about.

My advice would be to find another job if it is in your best interest to continue to work. Quitting because you do not like the job is not going to be considered a "protest". Management and the workplace are not going to see the error of their ways just because you quit.
But this isn't about "quitting" with no prospects for any income; it's about "retiring" with a pension, SS, IRAs, savings, or some combination of the above.
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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But this isn't about "quitting" with no prospects for any income; it's about "retiring" with a pension, SS, IRAs, savings, or some combination of the above.
Or is it about retiring as some sort of "protest" even when that earlier retirement is not in one's interest?
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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Or is it about retiring as some sort of "protest" even when that earlier retirement is not in one's interest?
That's precisely what it's about.

Also, a pension isn't an "entitlement" in the sense in which welfare and Medicaid are referred to as entitlements - actually a misnomer in those cases. One is literally entitled to Medicare and SS because they're earned and, likewise, a pension is earned by working for a government or other body long enough to become vested.
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