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Old 05-12-2008, 04:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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OK then it's semi retirement for me in 49 days. I hope I get a week or 2 off in between.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:26 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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He kept refusing and his boss kept badgering him. So, thinking to shut him up, he told the guy he would only work for him if he had complete say over the hours and when he worked and could take off on no notice for weeks at a time.

This is pretty much the deal that I could have. I would be paid per diem. The thing is that other people would kill for this job. I don't want to arbitrarily turn it down . I guess I would have to put off getting SS for a little while. (Don't you get more then if you do that ? ) . If I don't like the job , I can just leave. That's all. It is just that it sort of came out of the blue.I was not expecting this at all.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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He kept refusing and his boss kept badgering him. So, thinking to shut him up, he told the guy he would only work for him if he had complete say over the hours and when he worked and could take off on no notice for weeks at a time.

This is pretty much the deal that I could have. I would be paid per diem. The thing is that other people would kill for this job. I don't want to arbitrarily turn it down . I guess I would have to put off getting SS for a little while. (Don't you get more then if you do that ? ) . If I don't like the job , I can just leave. That's all. It is just that it sort of came out of the blue.I was not expecting this at all.
Isn't it amazing that you can work somewhere for a long time and not feel valued and then go and leave and then they want you? All of a sudden, you feel valuable! I think that will happen a lot with these firms out there - they don't realize how good their staff is - until they're leaving, that is....
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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Isn't it amazing that you can work somewhere for a long time and not feel valued and then go and leave and then they want you? All of a sudden, you feel valuable! I think that will happen a lot with these firms out there - they don't realize how good their staff is - until they're leaving, that is....
Plus the fact that they will HAVE to keep us, and hire new older people. There are not enough young people, AND we have a better education than they do today and of course, the experience, and work ethic.

I wonder when there was mandatory retirement at 65, what happened to people who didn't have enough money to live on??! Were they just put out to pasture and lived on the streets? Great way to treat your elders.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... I wonder when there was mandatory retirement at 65, what happened to people who didn't have enough money to live on??! Were they just put out to pasture and lived on the streets? Great way to treat your elders.
Is forced retirement at 65 now illegal?

My employer has a system called: 'High-Year-Tenure', depending on how high up the pay scale you climb, there is a corresponding number of years that you are allowed to continue working. Once you reach your pay-grade's HYT, then you are forced out. For my pay-grade my HYT was 20 years.

I have known men who were forced out before they had enough years to qualify for their pensions. For example; 12 years, 15 years, and 18 years.

I was forced onto pension at the date of when I first became eligible for a pension.

Had I made it up one more pay-grade, I could have continued working until my 24th anniversary.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:02 PM
 
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Is forced retirement at 65 now illegal?

No, it's not legal. But try and fight it. I've seen it happen to co-workers.

I have known men who were forced out before they had enough years to qualify for their pensions. For example; 12 years, 15 years, and 18 years.

I was forced onto pension at the date of when I first became eligible for a pension.

Had I made it up one more pay-grade, I could have continued working until my 24th anniversary.
This is why there are unions. I've seen people who were aging put into various unsafe positions for their health and strength...because their 'expertise' was needed there, in other words, forced retirement. Luckily, we had a union who saved many people's pensions.

There's a big push in Oregon now, equating unions with the Mafia, and force. It's on TV and in written media. Wonder who's funding that. Maybe unions don't work for small 'mom and pop' outfits, but how many of those are left?

Don't think large companies are 'respectful of their elders.' They way you got s.....d over is fairly common. And don't count on companies keeping their word to workers - those days are long gone.

Some older people can't afford to retire. That is a national shame.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:22 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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Isn't it amazing that you can work somewhere for a long time and not feel valued and then go and leave and then they want you? All of a sudden, you feel valuable! I think that will happen a lot with these firms out there - they don't realize how good their staff is - until they're leaving, that is....

That is how I felt (unvalued) and all of a sudden...... it is really strange to be able to call the shots.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Smile Calling the shots

The Baby Boomers were/are quite a force in this country and they changed things one by one. Retirement/job situations/education will change - hard to imagine 1/3 of the population will be 60 within 10 years. Quite a shift.

What I see is more consulting work being done by older persons who have become more valuable to corporations. I was always a fan of flextime; I see more of that.

As Boomers age (over 65), they may not need that expensive health insurance so corporations may find them valuable again. Who knows? For those who may have to work/want to work or a combination of both, it may be an alternative.

Good luck to those nearing a change or good golfing, good fishing or whatever your pursuit of happiness is!!
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:12 PM
 
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Taught school in a bad neighborhood in an american inner city for almost 30 years. Took an early retirement. Left some pension money on the table by leaving at 50 instead of 55 but have full medical bennies for myself and wife. Over 32K a year with a COLA. Sold the house before the market sank and moved to a new state. Decided to take 20% position which is one day a week at three schools teaching again and just sat at a meeting yesterday and was told that I was so fantastic, that I was a great addition to the school. That I was doing a great job. Would I like to do this again next year!!

In almost 30 years of teaching in NJ never was I treated with the respect that I have recieved down here. I work three days a week at 3 different schools. They are so happy to have an experienced teacher that needs no benefits.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:13 PM
 
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Actully I have several friends that are retire law enforcement. Most retire to retire but found there were so many oportunties for a ex-police officer that they just couldn't pass up the money. They all say it is easy money compared to being a police officer. One works at a small airport and is a supervisor of security and two work at the federal court house.
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