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Old 05-16-2008, 08:32 AM
 
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Is forced retirement at 65 now illegal?

My employer has a system called: 'High-Year-Tenure', depending on how high up the pay scale you climb, there is a corresponding number of years that you are allowed to continue working. Once you reach your pay-grade's HYT, then you are forced out. For my pay-grade my HYT was 20 years.

I have known men who were forced out before they had enough years to qualify for their pensions. For example; 12 years, 15 years, and 18 years.

I was forced onto pension at the date of when I first became eligible for a pension.

Had I made it up one more pay-grade, I could have continued working until my 24th anniversary.
It's against the law in America, as far as I know. Thanks to Claude Pepper, a congressman from Florida (who was about 90) many years ago.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:31 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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Taught school in a bad neighborhood in an american inner city for almost 30 years. Took an early retirement. Left some pension money on the table by leaving at 50 instead of 55 but have full medical bennies for myself and wife. Over 32K a year with a COLA. Sold the house before the market sank and moved to a new state. Decided to take 20% position which is one day a week at three schools teaching again and just sat at a meeting yesterday and was told that I was so fantastic, that I was a great addition to the school. That I was doing a great job. Would I like to do this again next year!!

In almost 30 years of teaching in NJ never was I treated with the respect that I have recieved down here. I work three days a week at 3 different schools. They are so happy to have an experienced teacher that needs no benefits.
Good job, I'm kinda young, IMHO, so I would like to stay busy a couple of days a week and the good thing is if I don't like it I'll move on to another journey.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Are you worried about what people call you/what you call yourself or what you put down on stinkin' official forms when they ask for your occupation?

This is like my inability to answer the question, "Where are you from?" without some windy explanation of where I was born, where I was raised, where I lived before my present location only to find out the questioner just wants to know what town I live in, in the area.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:43 AM
 
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I just wanted to mention that I looked up some information on the internet in regards to mandatory retirement.

It is done for some occupations - like fire fighters, police, air traffic controllers - that sort of thing. That can be a good thing, but some are questioning it now.

Otherwise, what companies do to "get away" with this is "incentive packages" so that they can force out older people. Age discrimination, in other words, but dressed up as a good thing.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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In New Jersey mandatory retirement for NJ State troopers is 55 and municipal police its 65. On a public safety point of view I think this is a good idea.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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In the US military an enlistedmen could enlist at age 17.5 and could serve 20 years [assuming that he only reached the rank of E-6]; in which case he would then be 37.5 years old when he would be forced into retirement.

In the US military an enlistedmen could enlist at age 35 and can serve no longer than 30 years [assuming that he were to reach the rank of E-9]; in which case he would then be 65 years old.

In the US military an officer could receive his commission and assuming that he were to reach the rank of Admiral he would be allowed to continue serving until he was 80 years old.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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In the US military an enlistedmen could enlist at age 17.5 and could serve 20 years [assuming that he only reached the rank of E-6]; in which case he would then be 37.5 years old when he would be forced into retirement.

In the US military an enlistedmen could enlist at age 35 and can serve no longer than 30 years [assuming that he were to reach the rank of E-9]; in which case he would then be 65 years old.

In the US military an officer could receive his commission and assuming that he were to reach the rank of Admiral he would be allowed to continue serving until he was 80 years old.
Wow, talk about double and triple standards. You could have an 80 year old admiral with a walker telling a 37.5 yoa hulk to get off the ship because he's too old to work anymore. Go figure.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Wow, talk about double and triple standards. You could have an 80 year old admiral with a walker telling a 37.5 yoa hulk to get off the ship because he's too old to work anymore. Go figure.
LOL

Yes, good point.

I was booted out on pension at 42. [I had gotten out once before, attended college and re-enlisted, otherwise I could have retired at 38].
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