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Old 08-20-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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Even if this is a very dated thread it has now reached a point where I feel if reasonable to offer the following commentary. Yes a Liberal wealthy/affluent person might well want a location that has a population with economic and probably ethnic diversity. I will to help put this in context mention our friend ( I mean that) and frequent poster bUU. From other posts I have the sense he is fairly well off financially and clearly in tune with those not as fortunate. He would probably want a place to transplant to that offered the social programs he values and is more than willing to support taxation with a wealth base to provide them. My disagreements with him are based on my realization that not all people are like that and as a result not all places are like that. The NC I transplanted to and the Raleigh Triangle has become very politicized and if Liberal causes are high on your list don't expect the level of social consciousness you might want. That is my realism. It is not a matter of this question coming from snobbery but rather one of probably social consciousness that they want to see reinforced in their retirement world. I know many folks who share a similar sentiment and they like me factored that in their retirement decisions. I am just realistic enough to know that a lot of people have a different perspective. I am also a fiscal conservative and realize the consequences of debt and unrestrained government spending. That tempers me and leaves me still finding NC politics to hopefully find a middle ground. A conservative retired in a world of liberal politics might not be happy nor might a liberal retired in a world of conservative politics. It is all part of retiring and transplanting comfortably. Many have grown up and worked in a culturally diverse life and want to continue that in retirement. They want their retirement friends to reflect the diversity they value. Others don't and that is realistic. If you want a retirement community and you want diversity cross the Villages off your list. That is a normal thought process many go through and it is part of transplant planning.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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We do really like San Diego and have visited there on a few occasions. My only concerns are that it seems somewhat conservative and has a somewhat anti-intellectual bent. Are there neighborhoods in San Diego that do not value the whole excessive make-up/plastic surgery scene (which seems prevalent in La Jolla)? What is Coronado like? I would like to be in a place where there are plenty of bookstores, lectures etc. nearby and where I don't have to spend a lot of time in the car. We're not huge beachgoers but enjoy tennis, golf, hiking, biking.
Forget the politics, unless you are an activist. With what you want, I think you should confine your search to towns/cities that have a four-year college or university. Such places, by nature of their population, are more left-leaning than not. And, in a college town, you will have an abundance of bookstores, intellectual pursuits, most likely a symphony and theatrical plays, etc.

If you are indeed "wealthy", then why not consider two retirement homes, a summer home in the northern tier of the country, then head south for the winter. Lots of people do it.

Good luck in your decision. You are one of the fortunate few, having so many options available to you.

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DANG! I did it again. I really need to start reading the dates of when threads are created, or last commented upon. Oh well. I'll leave the above post/thoughts for archive purposes and for people in the future who actually use the search function.
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Even if this is a very dated thread it has now reached a point where I feel if reasonable to offer the following commentary. Yes a Liberal wealthy/affluent person might well want a location that has a population with economic and probably ethnic diversity. I will to help put this in context mention our friend ( I mean that) and frequent poster bUU. From other posts I have the sense he is fairly well off financially and clearly in tune with those not as fortunate. He would probably want a place to transplant to that offered the social programs he values and is more than willing to support taxation with a wealth base to provide them. My disagreements with him are based on my realization that not all people are like that and as a result not all places are like that. The NC I transplanted to and the Raleigh Triangle has become very politicized and if Liberal causes are high on your list don't expect the level of social consciousness you might want. That is my realism. It is not a matter of this question coming from snobbery but rather one of probably social consciousness that they want to see reinforced in their retirement world. I know many folks who share a similar sentiment and they like me factored that in their retirement decisions. I am just realistic enough to know that a lot of people have a different perspective. I am also a fiscal conservative and realize the consequences of debt and unrestrained government spending. That tempers me and leaves me still finding NC politics to hopefully find a middle ground. A conservative retired in a world of liberal politics might not be happy nor might a liberal retired in a world of conservative politics. It is all part of retiring and transplanting comfortably. Many have grown up and worked in a culturally diverse life and want to continue that in retirement. They want their retirement friends to reflect the diversity they value. Others don't and that is realistic. If you want a retirement community and you want diversity cross the Villages off your list. That is a normal thought process many go through and it is part of transplant planning.
I thought this was a very open minded and thoughtful post. I myself struggle with this thought, in so far as wondering how good it is for us as a country to have such strong divides. Maybe i'm kidding myself, but it seems to me that we have really become divided as a nation and there is a lot of angry adversity out there now. I don't know the answer. I think it becomes really hard for issues to ever get resolved, when two sides are puling so strongly against each other.

But also, the reality of the situation is that I don't want to live in an area dominated with people in which I feel I have nothing in common with, and a difficult time engaging in conversation that is so strongly against everything I believe in. I don't want to live in an area, where every other word out someones mouth is "thank you Jesus". This makes me very uncomfortable, as I can't agree, and don't want to have to disagree. I realize a person's politics or religion do not define a person, and there are both Liberals and Conservative who are very lovely people. But my experience in the past has shown me that it is difficult to have a strong friendship with someone you disagree with on almost every corner. So this too is a reality. I can easily adapt to a place that has a good mixture of both mind sets. My last two homes were in "swing" states. But, as pretty as some of the country is in some of the other Red states, I don't think I could be very happy there, and that is a shame.
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Old 08-20-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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^^^^^^^^ Little Dolphin, are you aware that you just revived a thread in which the last post was almost seven and a half years ago?
I'm glad you pointed that out!

When I started reading this thread, I hadn't noticed the date. Then I saw a response from MoMark and was shocked! I thought he had died years ago (and he was a young man).
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Old 08-20-2014, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I'm glad you pointed that out!

When I started reading this thread, I hadn't noticed the date. Then I saw a response from MoMark and was shocked! I thought he had died years ago (and he was a young man).
Yes, he did die years ago. That what "Eternal Member" means as the status underneath the user name. City-Data puts that when they have verification that a poster has died.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What about Dallas, Texas?

Yes, our governor is currently under indictment, but he promises he'll be able to get it thrown out of court. Yes, we are currently a "red" state, but give it a minute. And Dallas is "blue". Yes, it gets hot in the summer, but check the stats it is only a few days a year. Average over 100 degrees is only 18 for the entire year! Yes, it gets cold and we have ice storms, but again only 2-3 days PER YEAR.

Oh - 4 year colleges: SMU, TCU, Dallas Baptist, North Texas (35,000+), TWU, UTA (35,000+)
Over 120,000+ students within 30 miles

Check out the Dallas Arts District - can't be beat. Liberals, conservatives, Baptists, we accept all. Come as you are!!!

And yes, I saw the date.

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Old 08-21-2014, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Central California
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Take a look at San Luis Obispo on the Central Coast of California, about 90 miles N/O Santa Barbara.

SLO is a small college town ( CAL POLY ) so it should be liberal enough for you. Weather is excellent year round.

You'll have the beach in your front yard and some of the best vineyards and wine in your back yard.

It is expensive to live here, but compared to Santa Barbara, Monterey & San Diego it's a bargain
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:34 AM
 
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Take a look at San Luis Obispo on the Central Coast of California, about 90 miles N/O Santa Barbara.
I have a close friend who lives in SLO and I spend a few weekends a year there. It's a great place, has much to recommend, if you're willing to ignore the earthquake threat and are ok with the overall brownness of the surrounding countryside.

The latter was a factor for me in crossing it off my list. For those who don't crave greenery and trees of nature and can afford the high housing costs, I agree, San Luis Obispo should top the list. It has much to offer and for a relatively small community, the medical facilities are outstanding.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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I have a close friend who lives in SLO and I spend a few weekends a year there. It's a great place, has much to recommend, if you're willing to ignore the earthquake threat and are ok with the overall brownness of the surrounding countryside.

The latter was a factor for me in crossing it off my list. For those who don't crave greenery and trees of nature and can afford the high housing costs, I agree, San Luis Obispo should top the list. It has much to offer and for a relatively small community, the medical facilities are outstanding.
Well, you do know that the state's nickname is "The Golden State"? Not because of the gold dug out of the hills, but because of the golden brown of the hills all throughout the state and most of the year. The brown hills are due to its climate, (Csa/Csb - Mediterranean). It only rains in the late winter and early spring . . . (usually - they've been in drought conditions the past few years). It only rains enough to support coastal chaparral and California Live Oak trees - not much else. Only about 10, maybe 15 inches a year total.

However, for those three or four weeks after the spring rains, there are few places in the world more beautiful. If you don't like precipitation, then just about anywhere in CA is desirable. If you do like rain, there is always Seattle.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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San Luis Obispo
Has an absolutely wonderful Mission with creek and park downtown too.
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