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Old 05-20-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa?
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'garage': A cool development that is often attached to a house to allow passage from house to vehicles without stepping outside, and that allows vehicles to be stored inside.
'Basement' A cool development under a house often used to store stuff not needed on a regular basis.

I keep forgetting that our two car garage can be used for cars, but since we can't have a basement where we are it has become our 'basement'.
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Teenager: A devioce equipped with a weak mind, a strong back and an insatiable need for money that will move the snow for you.
Vermont teenager: has no desire to earn money by mowing lawns or shoveling snow. I sure as heck can't find one...and I offer $20 for an hour of either job, as that is all it takes. My brothers used to go door-to-door offering to shovel or mow, but I have never seen a kid here doing the same. Where is the recession?
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Vermont teenager: has no desire to earn money by mowing lawns or shoveling snow. I sure as heck can't find one...and I offer $20 for an hour of either job, as that is all it takes. My brothers used to go door-to-door offering to shovel or mow, but I have never seen a kid here doing the same. Where is the recession?
They're too busy texting to notice there is one and Mommy and Daddy take care of everything.

By the time I was 12 I had about eight regular customers for mowing and leaf raking in the appropriate season and snow shoveling during the winter. Add babysitting and I was making anywhere from $50-80 a month and back in the 50s that was a great deal. This was in No. Virginia.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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They're too busy texting to notice there is one and Mommy and Daddy take care of everything.

By the time I was 12 I had about eight regular customers for mowing and leaf raking in the appropriate season and snow shoveling during the winter. Add babysitting and I was making anywhere from $50-80 a month and back in the 50s that was a great deal. This was in No. Virginia.
It really is how you raise them I guess. I started working at 14 for a vet and I made great money for a kid! If I didn't work, I didn't have money for clothes, entertainment, etc. I even saved up $150 for my first car :-)

Now I have a friend with a daughter, aged 22, who just graduated college but "isn't ready for a full-time job yet". So the kid lounges around the house all day and mom pays for her car, gas, clothes and everything.

My son worked part-time all through both high-school and college because that is the only way he would afford a car. What gets me is that I live in a very blue-collar town so you would think kids would need the money that their parents can't afford to give them.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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My parents retired to the south. I hate it down there. It makes it hard to make me want to visit. They say it is warm, but it's just weather so I mean is it that important? Plus you sweat all the time down there. I'm talking about the southeast. The south has no good cities and it is either country or sprawl so why would anyone retire there or even live there? Is it too expensive to retire to real cities?
1. I like sprawl.
2. I like to drive.
3. I like nature.
4. I don't like to live in cities anywhere. Too high population density/Too many people per square mile. Too much traffic.
5. I have more discretionary money now than I did when I was working because I live in a cheap state and don't have the expenses that go along with working.
6. Sprawl: No central downtown = no visible homeless
7. You are right about the heat - I'm more outdoor active between October - April than I am from May - September. I take out of state vacations in May and/or September and look for indoor things to do in the summer.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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It really is how you raise them I guess.

Now I have a friend with a daughter, aged 22, who just graduated college but "isn't ready for a full-time job yet". So the kid lounges around the house all day and mom pays for her car, gas, clothes and everything.
That situation is totally disgusting; it just turns my stomach. And, as I believe you are saying, it is the mother's fault, not the kid's. One wonders when the daughter will be ready for a full-time job. Maybe never, as long as the generous subsidy continues.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:17 PM
 
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Trying to respond about the "South" is too generalized. The South is not just one conglomerate of weather, culture, and environment. Virginia is hugely different than Mississippi in weather, culture, and physical environment.
NC is hugely different than Florida etc, etc. And within each Southern state there are big differences-- North Carolina is very different culturally and environmentally between the western mountain communities and the eastern coastal communities.

And the reasons people retire "there" are just as varied.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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That situation is totally disgusting; it just turns my stomach. And, as I believe you are saying, it is the mother's fault, not the kid's. One wonders when the daughter will be ready for a full-time job. Maybe never, as long as the generous subsidy continues.
Exactly. She even turned down a cushy job this summer as a lifeguard at a private club...too demanding, I guess, to sit in the chair by the pool and drink iced tea all day
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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To compare the taxes on a 1/4 acre of land in one state verses in another state, is a handy and quick comparison for property taxes.

To say a 2bdrm house, can't really be compared as easily. One 2bdrm house might be $40k, while another 2bdrm house might be $500k.

To get an honest feel for comparing taxes you need to discuss things that are the same, like land.
Even taxes within a state on land can vary widely. Land is perhaps one of the hardest to compared without seeing the land itself.Even within a area like I live wehre lots are often 1/2-10 acres the value varies alot by the land itself. When you get into small lots in residental its even tougher because it can depend on Location and even what has already builtup there. One can go just a shortways from my house into county and get land much cheaper but it also cost more to develop in to usable land other than cattle ;farming etc and can be effected by the lack of zoning quickly.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Sunny Florida
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We retired to the south because the doctors said it'd improve the quality of my life - not my longevity, but the quality, and that sounded good to me. Also my parents were here and I wanted to spend more time with them before that became impossible. Finally, I must admit the sunshine, blue skies, warmth, and beach were also alluring after a lifetime of winters in the gray, gloomy, cold Midwest. We haven't regretted our move and I am definitely enjoying my life a lot more because I can be outside each day without being too cold.
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