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Old 10-24-2009, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Wait until the heathcare bill passes if you want to see people being drop by employers.
And that's one of the reasons we need a strong public option.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:00 AM
 
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poor baby, it must be really tough being dependent on taxpayers to pay your daughter's education expenses and a new car in the same year!
what are you talking about? i didnt get 1 penny for school or the car... i didnt qualify for the cash for clunkers and to add insult to injury this year they are allowing you to write of the sales tax too.. i sold some property this year so im just over the income limit. i even got beat out of that.

where did i ever say i did get any assistance on anything ?

i wish i could be like the rest of america and get all these give backs, damn i didnt even qualify for the last stimulus check.... on 2nd thought hope you enjoyed spending tax payor money ha ha ha ha
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:06 PM
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what are you talking about? i didnt get 1 penny for school or the car... i didnt qualify for the cash for clunkers and to add insult to injury this year they are allowing you to write of the sales tax too.. i sold some property this year so im just over the income limit. i even got beat out of that.

where did i ever say i did get any assistance on anything ?

i wish i could be like the rest of america and get all these give backs, damn i didnt even qualify for the last stimulus check.... on 2nd thought hope you enjoyed spending tax payor money ha ha ha ha
I spend taxpayer money? Really? That's not what my paycheck says.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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did you not get a stimulus check last year? im curious where you got the idea that taxpayors paid my daughters tuition or for my car?
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:28 PM
 
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Withholding amounts mean little;its the taxes on adjusted income that means your actually paying something.
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:53 PM
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did you not get a stimulus check last year? im curious where you got the idea that taxpayors paid my daughters tuition or for my car?
no I didn't; I assumed you were on social security, apologies if not
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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No, it's because those prices can vary a lot. If SS could go down when there is deflation, then it wouldn't matter if food and energy were included. But since the SS COLA can't be negative under current law, it makes no sense to award increases only, but no decreases.
Hi,

Then given an analysis of when the COL is below the year prior thus giving a COLA then prices should drop too and rise with the COL. A working person's take home pay should also drop or rise along with their pension funding...Now the above senario doesn't make sense because it is called undermining the American dream of owning a business and paying taxes as I have and not being able to reap the benefits.

Now if we do not like the ones who vote on these rules then Americans have to work on their skills of voting them out of office not vote them in office by believing their platform that "may" occur.

I don't know about anyone else but I do dislike being tricked into voting for a candidate and so far I guess I am lucky. No tricks here.

...
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:00 AM
 
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no I didn't; I assumed you were on social security, apologies if not
even if i were , social security is not tax payor grants or assistance unless you are on disability . its your own money you payed in that your getting back . you buy a government annuity with your own money. just like any annuity if you or your spouse die early your money gets forfeited back in the pool and if you live longer then money you payed in then you get to use the money others forfeited by dying.

same with medicare, i have been paying into that for 34 years now in preperation for one day hopefully getting it back.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:25 AM
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even if i were , social security is not tax payor grants or assistance unless you are on disability . its your own money you payed in that your getting back . you buy a government annuity with your own money. just like any annuity if you or your spouse die early your money gets forfeited back in the pool and if you live longer then money you payed in then you get to use the money others forfeited by dying.

same with medicare, i have been paying into that for 34 years now in preperation for one day hopefully getting it back.
this is not true; social security is pay-as-you-go
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:18 AM
 
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you need quite a few quarters to pay into for even a minimum payment dont quote me but i think its about 10 years.... i hope i even get out what i paid in after 34 years of paying into the system...
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