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Old 03-16-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Age-discrimination is against the law for employment reasons, not that it's easy to enforce.

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I realize this is an unusual situation. The grandparents didn't intend for this to happen. But in the years they had the child they could have and should have moved because they were no longer eligible to live in the complex. It simply is not fair to the rest of the nieghbors. Or the child.
Exactly.

We are talking about PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY. Like wants to be with like, fine. If this is PRIVATE PROPERTY, the owners have the right to decide who lives on that private property.
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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I can only imagine what that must have been like, with the shadow of death hanging over their head," Eckard said. "Like, are they going to send in sheriff's deputies to enforce a court order (to evict Kimberly) if we lose?"
"The shadow of death". Oh brother....

And yes, they are. It happens every day.
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Old 03-16-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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My question is, how long will the child be allowed to live in the over 55 community? Will she have to move out when she reaches the age of adulthood at 21? Because it would seem that once she becomes an adult, she would no longer fall under the protection of the court as being allowed to live in the community as a dependent child.

I'm sure the idea of older people passing away in these types of communities and making arrangements for relatives to sell their property to age appropriate people comes up all the time. But in this case you have a minor living there so I would imagine it would involve special consideration regarding who will get the house. And whether or not the grandparents are still around when she turns 21 and is no longer a minor, if she is asked to move there may be another court battle to allow her to remain.

There are all sorts of ramifications that can arise from this situation. All would be in disfavor of what the over 55 community was set up for in the first place. These things may sound far-fetched but they are possibilities. This family may have to continue to be running back and forth to the courts during their lifetime to obtain new decisions regarding the judge's stricking down this first rule that the child be allowed to stay.

It may be opening a can of worms no one ever foresaw. Not to mention the idea that future prospective buyers may not want to purchase homes in the community for fear that the rules allowing minors may not be upheld in future situations. The judge said this case would not set a precedent but I don't know how much faith I would have in that ruling.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22 View Post
Age-discrimination is against the law for employment reasons, not that it's easy to enforce.

Exactly.

We are talking about PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY. Like wants to be with like, fine. If this is PRIVATE PROPERTY, the owners have the right to decide who lives on that private property.
You don't understand the law nor 55 and older communities , they are legal and are a form of deed restrictions. You can not move into a residential neighborhood and build a car repair shop and fall back on its private property.

Some of you don't understand what a deed restricted community is. I would suggest you buy a piece of land in the county where you can raise chickens and pigs without ticking off the neighbors and have a good time picking up a date at the family reunion.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Some of these individual cases can be heart-rending and often ( not always) it's easy to be sympathetic.
However, one 'special case' can easily become two, then three then four 'special cases and suddenly there are a bunch of kids . We've had that happen.
Most move them in without asking for permission or variance first.
Legal precedent or not, it creates division among residents with opposing opinions and always becomes a hassle for the management and/or the board, who automatically become the 'heartless bad guys' when the kid(s) have to go.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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Some of these individual cases can be heart-rending and often ( not always) it's easy to be sympathetic.
However, one 'special case' can easily become two, then three then four 'special cases and suddenly there are a bunch of kids . We've had that happen.
Most move them in without asking for permission or variance first.
Legal precedent or not, it creates division among residents with opposing opinions and always becomes a hassle for the management and/or the board, who automatically become the 'heartless bad guys' when the kid(s) have to go.

Understood. Now do we know if they asked before or early on for a varience? Or did they ask for a short term varience until other matters settled? Asking first may have made it a more tolerable situation.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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The thing boils down to this, these people bought a home in a deed restricted community. 55 and over is a legal thing and not discriminatory. Their situation changed, not the community. Its not the fault of the community that their situation changed. Sell if for what you can get out of it and move on.

If I have an apartment that allows 2 people and then my wife gets pregnant with twins its not my land lords fault to build on an extra bedroom. If I live in a second story apt. and I get in a car accident and can not walk up the stairs because I am now wheel chair bound its not the apt. complex's responsibility to now put in an elevator.

I never stop getting amazed at how people just don't understand how things work. Apt complex's have by law to make a percentage of apts handicap accessible. If my situation changes and there are no handicap apts. its not the responsibility of my apt complex to make my apt adapt to my new situation.

How do you not understand this? Its a 55 and older community, I think most allow one 18 to 54 yo person live with you if they are a care taker, but no kids. Its a dumb as saying my land lord has a no pets and I got a dog I inherited from my dead aunt and now I need to keep it in the apt. LOL Really?

If we change the rules every time some situation required us to there would be no fing rules.

I would kick all of them out. its the only way to preserve the community. If you allow one person to do auto repair in the front yard you have to let two and three then you have hillbilly hollow.
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