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Old 03-13-2010, 10:51 AM
 
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I know studies don't mean much and they are usually are immediately contradicted by another study, but carrying a few extra pounds isn't the end of the world according to a lot of science. Being healthy and being overweight can and do go together. If you get regular exercise, eat well and in moderate amounts and your health indicators are good, why worry about shedding that last 20 lbs? Healthy overweight people actually live longer than healthy normal weight people, statistically. You shouldn't use this as an excuse to stay unhealthy or not lose weight if that is what you want to do. You still need to take care of yourself, but there has been a push in the last 50 years or so to really hammer on being overweight, but the numbers just don't support taking extreme measures to get rid of a little extra weight. You can actually make your health worse by crash dieting or fad dieting. Eating right and exercising are the key.

Also, don't believe the BMI charts. Those things were developed in the 50's. Not only were they sampling a population that had just emerged from the Great Depression and WWII, but the foods they ate were not enriched like those we get today. People are bigger today on average than they were then and I don't mean fatter. Some people fit in the ranges nicely, but many do not. Unfortunately, many doctors still use those things and are telling patients to meet very unrealistic weight goals. For instance, my body fat analysis shows that I would weight 200-210 with 0 percent body fat. That means with 15% body fat, a good number for me, I would weight 230+. My doctor goes to the BMI chart and tells me I should weight no more than 183!!!! I would have to lose significant muscle mass to do so. I used to lift weights, but I am no body builder. make sure the weight you are targeting is a realistic weight. Losing muscle to get "skinny" is not healthy.

I am trying to lose weight. I was up to 380 at one time and now run about 315. 380 was unhealthy. 315 is probably still to high. I am aiming for 280 and then I will see. I was on Weight Watchers online, but now have built a spreadsheet to help track my eating, though I really don't need it. A year of WW taught me how much i could eat and lose or maintain and now I just know. I have normal BP and cholesterol, have had a scan of my heart and it is normal and I exercise regularly. I lose a pound a week, maybe a little more or a little less.

I think it is more important to be comfortable with yourself and your body than to lose some vanity pounds. Like most everything else, attitude is the key. You won't be healthy beating yourself up over a few extra pounds or worrying about how you look compared to some swimsuit model or the fitness trainer next door. We are all built differently. If you want or need to lose weight, do it slowly and do something you can maintain without feeling deprived. Cheat once in a while (vacations, holidays, celebrations, etc.) or you will go nuts. Moderation is the key. Above all, be happy with who you are and what you look like.
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Old 03-13-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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I've been enjoying all the retirement threads but don't see much about staying young and healthy past the age of 50 or 60. Maybe we can give each other some ideas on this thread--healthy lifestyles, foods/nutrition, exercise, outlook, etc. (no sex, porn, etc on this thread!!)
I bet she may have some ideas about retirement lifestyle. At the age of 129, still playing board games and drinking vodka...

Vodka-drinking Khvichava is the oldest human
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:13 PM
 
Location: New England
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I think it is more important to be comfortable with yourself and your body than to lose some vanity pounds. Like most everything else, attitude is the key. You won't be healthy beating yourself up over a few extra pounds or worrying about how you look compared to some swimsuit model or the fitness trainer next door. We are all built differently. If you want or need to lose weight, do it slowly and do something you can maintain without feeling deprived. Cheat once in a while (vacations, holidays, celebrations, etc.) or you will go nuts. Moderation is the key. Above all, be happy with who you are and what you look like.
A very different perspective, which I appreciate and believe. However, I have a specifc health condition that could possibly improve quite a bit if i can lose that #@$%# 20 pounds. It has nothing to do with vanity, after all, I am retirement age so who cares? I mean, Paul Newman is not knocking on my door (or maybe he is?). If it weren't for this health condition I would not consider dropping any weight b/c I prepare the best foods, eat little, and as much as I am allowed I do walk. I feel like what more can I do??? (well, I do like my home baked wholewheat muffins made with a little honey and a few berries (no butter or hdyro oils), and maybe I do tend to eat too many of these. They are "natural" comfort foods (along with cream in my coffee, no sugar).

The way I see it, the only thing I could possibly cut back on or give up is this kind of comfort food, and coffee (cannot drink it black). What I would trade for the lost pounds would be loss of treats and higher stress without the coffee breaks. I'm wondering what else to do, like maybe have a tiny dinner and a really big breakfast that includes my home bakiing and coffee
Does anyone find that an early small dinner works to lose weight?
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: New England
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I bet she may have some ideas about retirement lifestyle. At the age of 129, still playing board games and drinking vodka...

Vodka-drinking Khvichava is the oldest human
Happy hour with one glass of one is definitely on my regime, it is a blood thinner. I don't like and in fact hate the taste of liquor, so a nice mellow wine is good. I need to start playing a board game with someone. And yogurt too.
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN
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NEG - I hear over & over that you must stop eating after 7 p.m. Anything after 7 doesn't get burned off and just turns to fat while you sleep.

I also hear that you must eat breakfast. I rarely do and I have been a size 2-4 all my life. I personally believe in moving - activity and exercise makes the difference for me. If that isn't possible for you, the only area you can cut is in calories.

Have you tried sitting and doing weight lifting or other sit down exercises?
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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newenglandgirl, I now play scrabble with some friends on facebook. We have 4 different games going at the same time. It definitely helps keep your mind going.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I like to drive my car to where other people run and take photos of them.

I have observed skinny old people have more wrinkles. Ever notice that? C'mon, puff out those cheeks! Notice how all of those wrinkles around the mouth disappear? I think skinny old people are always cold, too, then they either sit out or walk in the sun or crank up the heat, drying out their skin and voila -- more wrinkles.

But seriously, put me down with the "pry the car keys from my cold dead hands" group. My car is freedom and I'm not giving it up. It's why I don't live in a big city.

I don't really care if other people think I'm young or old, as long as I can do whatever I want to do...and, uh, the UPS guy carries the packages up the stairs.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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I like to drive my car to where other people run and take photos of them.

I have observed skinny old people have more wrinkles. Ever notice that? C'mon, puff out those cheeks! Notice how all of those wrinkles around the mouth disappear? I think skinny old people are always cold, too, then they either sit out or walk in the sun or crank up the heat, drying out their skin and voila -- more wrinkles.

But seriously, put me down with the "pry the car keys from my cold dead hands" group. My car is freedom and I'm not giving it up. It's why I don't live in a big city.

I don't really care if other people think I'm young or old, as long as I can do whatever I want to do...and, uh, the UPS guy carries the packages up the stairs.
I notice when I get down the a certain weight the wrinkles show up. So best not to get too thin, right? I'm afraid the wrinkles around my mouth are forever, I'd have to be really fat for those to fill out. I smoked for 25 years, unfortunately, so I'm stuck.

I'm not giving up my car either! I'm in a village/rural area and I love to go for drives and stop at cafes and go for a walk, etc.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: New England
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NEG - I hear over & over that you must stop eating after 7 p.m. Anything after 7 doesn't get burned off and just turns to fat while you sleep.

I also hear that you must eat breakfast. I rarely do and I have been a size 2-4 all my life. I personally believe in moving - activity and exercise makes the difference for me. If that isn't possible for you, the only area you can cut is in calories.

Have you tried sitting and doing weight lifting or other sit down exercises?
Size 2 to 4? Is there such a thing? You must have great genes and metabolism. I am definitely going to take your suggestion about late dinners. What does your diet consist of and are there foods that you can eat that would put pounds on others?
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:04 PM
 
Location: New England
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newenglandgirl, I now play scrabble with some friends on facebook. We have 4 different games going at the same time. It definitely helps keep your mind going.
My mind does not have to lose weight!! OK maybe it does...
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