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Old 07-26-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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I think this would be a huge mistake. 46 stories is ridiculous and these will be empty for a loooooong time.

The Fleet bldg is still empty.

We have height limits downtown that the commission should be enforcing. What is wrong with the commission people?

Developer’s plan to build skyscraper in Providence moves forward | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News

 
Old 07-26-2017, 06:38 AM
 
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If he's stupid enough to build it, let him spend the money in the city. Even if they sit empty they will be on the tax roll.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Pawtucket, RI
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Enforcing the height restriction is the City Council's jurisdiction, not the Commission's. Fane still needs a zoning waiver from the council.

Does this really need its own thread?
 
Old 07-26-2017, 07:33 AM
 
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I think this would be a huge mistake. 46 stories is ridiculous and these will be empty for a loooooong time.

The Fleet bldg is still empty.

We have height limits downtown that the commission should be enforcing. What is wrong with the commission people?

Developer’s plan to build skyscraper in Providence moves forward | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News
Not opposed the the location or concept. The devil is in the architecture & public subsidy details. I find more offensive the generic suburban-looking hotels approved in the pipeline for PVD.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Not opposed the the location or concept. The devil is in the architecture & public subsidy details. I find more offensive the generic suburban-looking hotels approved in the pipeline for PVD.
I believe that there are any public subsidies that go along with this, we'll be looking at another boondoggle on the scale of 38 studios.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Pawtucket, RI
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38 Studios was a loan. You can't default on tax credits.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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38 Studios was a loan. You can't default on tax credits.
That's not what I meant- of course. Giving these people tax deferments and special deals such as ignoring the zoning laws, etc. would be a boondoggle. I don't know know what is in the preliminary agreement, but I'm basing this on past deals. The end result is that the taxpayer loses.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Pawtucket, RI
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It isn't ignoring the zoning laws. The zoning laws include a process, within those laws, for applying for and receiving a waiver.

There is no agreement, according to the article. The developer is looking for the maximum $15 million credit. If it brings people to live in Providence, and pay sales tax and income tax here instead of in Massachusetts, then it seems like the taxpayer wins.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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If?

RI has a dearth of high paying professional jobs. Plenty of luxury housing is already being built near the train and in EP.

Convince me we can fill 40+ floors with high payers (while spoiling the scale of downtown and obstructing the waterfront). It's not all about money- it's also about aesthetics. We can approve any old crap to make money. I think an entire subdivision of 200K raised ranches on the waterfront would sell.

Also, I've got the Brooklyn Bridge for sale to anyone interested.
 
Old 07-26-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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Forgive me, as an outsider I don't know much about the local economy...are there really a lot of luxury units sitting empty in Providence? What do rents go for? Is there a lack of demand for highly paid professionals (how is this defined?) or a lack of supply?
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