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Old 09-20-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Fung is a Republican politician which by default mean he will support the Republican president. .


Not if he had good character and sound judgment.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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Fung is a Republican politician which by default mean he will support the Republican president. Gina is a Democrat, and it's no secret that she supported the crook Hillary. I don't see anybody holding that against her, nor should they. She shouldn't be judged for supporting her own party, but for her record as governor. If this type of partisan politics is a problem for you, you should be voting 3rd party.



Not necessarily so. Charlie Baker, a Republican, and one of the most popular governors in the nation, doesn't support Trump or many of his hateful policies.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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Not necessarily so. Charlie Baker, a Republican, and one of the most popular governors in the nation, doesn't support Trump or many of his hateful policies.
Exactly. That Fung, a Rhode Island republican politician, is forced to support someone like Trump defies reason. Governor Baker's opposition to Trump probably has gained him 10 points in additional popularity in Massachusetts.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Earth, a nice neighborhood in the Milky Way
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Don't need a third party. The choice has never been clearer.
I need a third party. I expect that I won't be voting for a gubernatorial candidate. None of the candidates are qualified.
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Earth, a nice neighborhood in the Milky Way
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Fung is a Republican politician which by default mean he will support the Republican president. Gina is a Democrat, and it's no secret that she supported the crook Hillary. I don't see anybody holding that against her, nor should they. She shouldn't be judged for supporting her own party, but for her record as governor. If this type of partisan politics is a problem for you, you should be voting 3rd party.
I agree with you that Allan Fung should not be solely judged by his support of Trump. Nor should Raimondo be solely judged by her support of Hillary Clinton. But their support does say something about their judgment, about their character. Country before party, always. Both these mainstream candidates have that backwards, as so many do these days.

I don't think there is a default position for a Republican in the age of a Trump presidency. There have been prominent national Republicans who have denounced Trump. He has essentially hijacked the Republican Party. Like him or loathe him, I think you have to at least recognize that. And locally, I'm not sure that RI Republicans compel Allan Fung to support Trump; Rhode Island Republicans aren't exactly the same breed as those outside New England... It's not as if Mass. Gov. Baker did anything heroic or outlandish by not supporting Trump.

On the other hand: I've never been a fan of Trump, but I think the Democrats are over the top in obstructing everything he does or giving him credit in those narrow corners where they agree. Characteristically, Raimondo has played the party line here for lack of her own vision. It's a rare occurrence when party leaders act like statesmen who could be civil to the opposition, to find common ground and put country before party. We continue to sink lower and lower.
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Old 09-21-2018, 06:26 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I agree with you that Allan Fung should not be solely judged by his support of Trump. Nor should Raimondo be solely judged by her support of Hillary Clinton. But their support does say something about their judgment, about their character. Country before party, always. Both these mainstream candidates have that backwards, as so many do these days.
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I'm not a fan of HRC (at all!), but why wouldn't she be supported? She was eminently qualified: U.S. Senator, Secretary of State, some White House/DC experience, legal background. She might have been the most qualified, on paper, candidates ever. Supporting her shows sound judgment.


The opposite for Trump.




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On the other hand: I've never been a fan of Trump, but I think the Democrats are over the top in obstructing everything he does or giving him credit in those narrow corners where they agree. Characteristically, Raimondo has played the party line here for lack of her own vision. It's a rare occurrence when party leaders act like statesmen who could be civil to the opposition, to find common ground and put country before party. We continue to sink lower and lower.

Um, the Republicans have the majority in both houses. The Dems aren't obstructing and have no power to obstruct anything. Unfortunately, as its led to a horrible fiscal situation, and person and environmental tragedies uncounted.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Cranston
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So how did Allan Fung create thousands of jobs in Cranston after losing a thousand or two from Citizen Bank's move to Johnston? I can't see a cite on his commercial. Anyone have an idea where he got his numbers from?
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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You were not specific in what you were comparing, and what do you mean by "comparable properties". You still show little understanding of how municipal finances work. Cranston had high taxes to begin with, but unlike most other nearby cities the increases have been very limited in the past decade. How "flat" have your taxes in Providence been since 2008? How bout those auto excise taxes???



NO. What I don't tolerate is personal attacks for having a difference of opinion, or running from facts when they don't agree with one's agenda.
You don't tolerate personal attacks only when they're directed at you.

However, you find it OK to say that I "still show little understanding of how municipal finances work" based on your fantasy assessments of my understanding.

You are obviously for Fung. That is your right of course. I wouldn't vote for him.

And how am I defending or unaware Providence's high taxes? I basically said it wouldn't pay me to move to Cranston taxwise. Stop promoting false memes and putting words in other's mouths.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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I need a third party. I expect that I won't be voting for a gubernatorial candidate. None of the candidates are qualified.
Please vote for the least worst. That is what we all have to do. Otherwise the very worst could win.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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NOT racist policies, quit making stuff up (or rehashing CNN talking points). Anti-HRC women were anti-HRC because she is a crook, not because she is a woman.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/re...mayor-cranston
According to Fox news............. and most who voted against Obama did not do so because he was black.
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