02-07-2016, 09:09 AM
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Claiming that there is no price difference between Aldi and Kroger seems absurd to me. There are more than enough elaborated price comparisons between different grocery chains.
For example this one:
Kroger vs. Walmart vs. Aldi: Which Is the Cheapest Grocery Store?
In this price comparison Kroger was about 30% more expensive than Aldi and by considering the prices by using a Kroger plus card, still 20% more expensive.
Or just compare the weekly ads for an Aldi store in the Richmond area with the weekly ads for a Kroger store in Richmond. 4 lb sugar at Kroger for $2.19 vs. $1.79 at Aldi. Or an avocado for $0.79 vs. $0.49.
There are also more than enough Aldi food hauls on YT, where people are amazed how much cheaper Aldi is.
It's in my opinion also just logical that Aldi is able to offer cheaper prices. They have a significant lower cost structure. When I remember correctly Aldi has planned 10 stores in the Richmond area. Pretty sure they have done a lot of market research to be sure that they will be successful in Richmond.
There are many reasonable reasons not to shop at Aldi, like:
- I prefer name brands over private label brands. They gave me an emotional added benefit.
- I don't like to shop at several grocery chains.
- I need a huge selection. I hate it when I am not able to choose from several hundreds of different wines.
- I need a butcher and a cheese expert, so I can ask which kind of cheese fits best to my planned dinner.
- I hate the produce section at Aldi because it looks so unappealing.
- I need additional services like a pharmacie, a flower shop or whatever.
- I don't feel comfortable in an Aldi store, because many customers there seems strange to me.
But to claim Aldi isn't cheaper or the quality of Aldi products is substandard, seems absurd to me. I also don't understand why some people have issues with the carts or with bagging their own groceries.
I am also not quite sure about Richmond has lower food prices. Having a wider variety of grocery chains doesn't mean necessarily lower food prices. The competition between just two different grocery chains can be more intense than the competition between 15 different chains.
At least when I compare the weekly ads from different Kroger stores throughout the U.S. I can't see that Richmond has lower food prices. Profit margins in the food retail industry are very thin and it seems difficult how grocery chains in Richmond should be able to offer noticeable lower food prices and still be profitable. There are surely metro areas with higher food prices. But compared to most other metro areas Richmond doesn't seem to have lower food prices. But maybe I am wrong about that, not sure.
Not sure if you're from here (Richmond), but I can tell you the price of what I buy at almost any store in Richmond. I did a lot of research when Aldi opened and whether or not you find it absurd, I stand by my claim that Kroger's prices are as good.
As far as prices being low in Richmond, again, I don't know if you're from here, but they're extremely low compared to anywhere else I shop.
I've yet to meet anyone who has changed their shopping habits because Aldi opened in Richmond. It's just nothing special to say the least.
02-07-2016, 09:33 AM
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I've yet to meet anyone who has changed their shopping habits because Aldi opened in Richmond. It's just nothing special to say the least.
I think this line sums it up best, it also seems like we have experts in supermarket logistics who have suddenly moved into the Richmond metro.
02-07-2016, 11:01 AM
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Another way Kroger > Aldi for me is I get 6% back using my Amex for groceries at Kroger while Aldi doesn't take credit cards.
02-10-2016, 05:53 PM
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Kroger also sells Tyson's chicken under a different label. It's $1.88/lb for chicken breast. Kroger's Private Selection brand is also excellent with extensive selection.
I've read a lot about Aldi. I'm a very careful shopper. I wanted to like it. It's a depressing experience and I don't think the prices are good compared to other stores' sale prices. The chocolate is pretty good but not worth a special trip.
If a standard grocery store is running a loss-leader on a given item they will be cheaper than Aldi. However, if you want that item on a week when it's not on sale Aldi will be cheaper. There are certain items that I only buy at Aldi & others that I never buy there.
I have zero interest in grocery store ambiance. I only care if the place is clean.
02-10-2016, 06:04 PM
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Most store brands are repackaged from major producers, I know that but to call a chain "discount" when the only way to save is to purchase the limited selection of store named products that is no savings. As for Easter candy what are you talking about?
Packaging plants don't repackage items. They have separate runs using other labels.
At Christmas & Easter Aldi imports holiday-specific chocolate candy for the holiday. I assume that you've seen Easter candy. At Christmastime they also important other holiday-specific foods, like stollen.
02-10-2016, 06:16 PM
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If a standard grocery store is running a loss-leader on a given item they will be cheaper than Aldi. However, if you want that item on a week when it's not on sale Aldi will be cheaper. There are certain items that I only buy at Aldi & others that I never buy there.
I have zero interest in grocery store ambiance. I only care if the place is clean.
With Walmart Savings Catcher, you get all the local grocery store's loss leaders automatically price matched (so when Kroger has Domino's sugar for $0.99 and Martin's has Bryer's ice cream for $1.99 and can get both at Walmart at that price). Also, if you understand sales cycles (e.g., how often the pasta you buy goes on sale) then you can figure out how much to buy when it's on sale. It's not rocket science. No need for a special trip to a grocery store that leaves a lot to be desire for most of us.
02-10-2016, 08:16 PM
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Packaging plants don't repackage items. They have separate runs using other labels.
At Christmas & Easter Aldi imports holiday-specific chocolate candy for the holiday. I assume that you've seen Easter candy. At Christmastime they also important other holiday-specific foods, like stollen.
Read post #87 I don't need to re explain what I meant by repackaging. No what is Easter Candy????
Yes I know what it is my line applied to your statement "Try to find the old-fashioned foil-wrapped Christmas & Easter chocolates at those prices. Not chocolate flavor, it's European chocolate." Your statement following the discussion of luncheon meat and made no sense.
02-11-2016, 04:41 PM
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Read post #87 I don't need to re explain what I meant by repackaging. No what is Easter Candy????
Yes I know what it is my line applied to your statement "Try to find the old-fashioned foil-wrapped Christmas & Easter chocolates at those prices. Not chocolate flavor, it's European chocolate." Your statement following the discussion of luncheon meat and made no sense.
http://www.candyblog.net/blog/item/f...ocolate_rabbit
02-11-2016, 05:27 PM
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Whatever I am not concerned about candy, as I said your post did not make sense.
03-21-2016, 12:04 PM
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http://m.richmond.com/business/local....html?mode=jqm
So long Martin's. I see Publix as the likely buyer as these stores are too small for Kroger. Too bad the Food Lion stores won't be touched.
ETA: I hope Kroger gets more Ukrops bakery goods. Although Publix has a decent bakery.
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People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)