09-04-2016, 03:21 PM
Location: Vinton, Virginia
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LOL! Oh, I do remember that. I wasn't sure if you were telling me to avoid 24019 but it seems southwest of downtown is the way to go. Will have to find our good views in Cave Spring, I guess.
Thanks for writing, Rke Deschutes.
09-06-2016, 06:40 AM
Location: Daleville, VA
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I think the challenge is:
RANCH STYLE
vs
GREAT VIEW
vs
GREAT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL
I can steer you well to any of the three....but to get all three????
The walkable neighborhoods are the older houses (not ranch style) - and they are a little denser so no view
The ranch style are in the neighborhoods developed in the 50s/60s....not quite as dense but still not the place for the views.
The views are in the least dense terrain....and usually hillier so you are not going to find ranch style. Plus you have the wolves, bears, and panthers to deal with. (JUST A JOKE JUST A JOKE)
I think you need three houses!
(As for me and my house you know I will choose walkable/dense in a heartbeat haha!)
09-08-2016, 04:27 PM
Location: Vinton, Virginia
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Thanks again, Watchful! And especially for the extra heartbeats you gave me with mention of wolves, bears, and panthers!
It's a really difficult choice to make. I always thought being in the center of things would work best but now I'm leaning toward the mountain views. Not really sure of the value of being in a walkable area since we are so used to driving everywhere and doubt that will change after a lifetime of living in Houston.
I'm really not opposed to a 2-story house. Just worry about growing old in one and having to get one of those stair lifts. Ugh! That would be so depressing! And Heaven forbid I make my dogs go to any more effort than having to get off the couch and walk to their food bowls. They wouldn't know what to do with stairs but maybe we could all use the extra exercise. We really limit the home search by narrowing down to ranch only.
Thanks, as always, for the wonderful feedback.
09-14-2016, 01:51 PM
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Rke Deschutes
If you ever saw the movie "The Graduate" back in 1969 Dustin Hoffman was given advise on what to do with his future life
and one word "Plastics" was given as at that time when the Plastics industry had a big future. I guess I am getting old
Ha Ha!!
For what it's worth I got it too, but I'm also old.
OP: What price range are you looking at?
09-15-2016, 02:49 AM
Location: Vinton, Virginia
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We're really hoping to find something under $300K.
Do they charge more for mountain views?
09-15-2016, 12:22 PM
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I thought that I'd chime in on this thread, and let you all know what I've experienced in regards to our move from New Jersey this last June. My wife and I, (recently retired early) decided to move out of NJ, I having lived there, for 26 yrs., she for 62 (all of her life), and have done extensive reconnaissance initially focusing on the Asheville, NC area. Having found evidence of rising real estate prices, substantial gentrification, and other factors which began to turn us off (such a beautiful place to live, though) we started looking into Roanoke. To shorten the story, we felt that living in this area was a good choice after several scouting missions (7.5 hour drive south for us), and we put the house on the market, selling it 12 days later. So we had to make some bold moves, and made another mission with about 3 weeks until closing, and being homeless. Let me rewind a little (I've got ADD, please bear with me), our objective was to rent somewhere in the area prior to purchasing our retirement home, so we could feel confident in our purchase. Well, from prior visits here, we made contact with a realtor that we felt comfortable with, and asked for suggestions on a rental situation- a home specifically, no apartment for us. Well, there wasn't much online, and he steered us to look into Craigslist, which is the route we took. (In retrospect, I had feelings that he was kind of blowing us off..........but now, I fully believe that avenue is the most productive way to search). So here we were: I'm 59, she's 62, moving out of our 3br. home with a 55lb. Flat coated retriever, with no place yet to transition to. We needed to rent a home with lots of storage area (the plan is and was, to keep a lot of stuff still in boxes, until we find our home to purchase). We have not rented any kind of home, apt. or whatever for many, many years, so we found that the normal lease turns out to be a year. Ok, we'll deal with that, we thought. So we monitored Craigslist, and wound up pre-arranging showings prior to our quick visit in May. We found that the home style that we were seeking would be in the 1200-1500 per month range. To move the story along, the last house we visited on the list turned out to be the home we are in now. We moved here in Cave Spring, in early Jun. We are in a 3 bdrm., 2bath home with .66 acres, with not too much of a view, but what an awesome rather quiet area. We entered in an agreement with our very gracious landlords for a 9 month lease @ 1700 per month., more than we wanted to pay, but we were relieved we found a nice, temporary place to hang our hats. So, for 3.5 months or so, we have been looking at all areas around here, Salem, Bonsack, Daleville, etc., etc.......and have lots of time to shop for homes. We both fully agree that this area that we now live, is where we would like to be. We too, are looking for homes in the 300K area, hopefully with a view, unfinished basement (I'm eager to create sawdust, weld, and generally make a mess!). We've found that this area of Roanoke County affords beautiful views from many different home value echelons. Being that it's a bit hilly here, the neighborhoods present a variable different land acreage and terrain exposure. One home may have a terrific view, the next, not so much. Certainly I've generalized, but if you have the ability to rent, it would help you "push the button" at the time the perfect home pops up, of course, taking into account your lease agreements. Anyhow, we've found that most anywhere in the area, you can escape the hustle and bustle of life when you get home, but you can also go all over the area in minutes. Regarding animal life, believe it or not, there have been numerous sightings of deer, fox, skunk, feral Savannah Cats, and many bear sightings (in our yard), from our home in New Jersey. Here in Cave Spring, we've encountered a fair amount of deer, (including the neighborhood albino baby fawn, pretty rare!), squirrels, and haven't seen, but evidence of skunk at my neighborhood. Anyhow, I'm serious about the ADD, and feel as if I've written my thoughts in a standard bit of rambling that I may be famous for, but the main thing I wanted to get across is: We love Cave Spring. I hope I've helped anyone with my experience.
09-15-2016, 09:56 PM
Location: Vinton, Virginia
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Thank you so much for sharing your story, bigzap. You are making a wise choice, for sure. If we are unable to find a home, we'll likely go down the same route. We may have to make a few trips in a short period of time to find a home, but we are going to give it our best shot to avoid moving twice.
From what I gather, we can't go wrong if we are fortunate to find a home in Cave Spring. Obviously, everyone loves it there. I'm also interested in Botetourt County in Roanoke and we'll see what else is out there.
So you're saying the bear sightings were from your yard in NEW JERSEY?
09-17-2016, 07:30 PM
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Yes, bear have been in our yard, in the neighborhood. Perhaps the stereotype of an urban area quickly comes to mind when you think of New Jersey. That's not always the case, as I lived in kind of the outskirts of suburbia. I sometimes described to people that if I had to, I could get up off the couch and go out and touch a cow in perhaps 7 minutes. I worked in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania (reverse commute from "the city"), and enjoyed the area substantially. Since retirement, though, we couldn't find ourselves paying the $10,000 per year taxes for our house (we sold for $365,00), and for our .15 acre land. So, in Roanoke, we expect to pay $2,200-$3,000 per year, and we would find ourselves about complaining about it if we approached the $3,000 end of our expectations (human nature- we're never fully satisfied!).
10-05-2016, 08:34 AM
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From NY. I bought land Moneta a year and half ago. I see deer and turkey on a regular basis. A black snake in our chicken coop,
Lots of little critters. Ive yet to see a fox ( although I know theyre around)or bear. I saw my first coyote last week when I let my dogs out at
midnight, and they didn't stick around once they saw the German Shepherds.
I've seen more bear in northern NJ than I have here.
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10-06-2016, 07:30 PM
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I live in Cave Spring (from NY originally since we're all sharing where we come from).
If you want views here, try and be near the Cotton Hill area (near Penn Forest elementary/South county library)
Cave Spring is not walk-able save for the tracks at the schools. We do not have sidewalks.
Other than the odd stray dog I have not felt threatened by animals.
I like where I live; no views save for one window but it's quiet here yet I'm close to whatever I need. I can go ten minutes one way and be in downtown Roanoke or go ten minutes another way and be in the middle of nowhere (aka Bent Mountain
)
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People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)