Conservative Catholic Churches?

[PaperTrail]

Originally Posted by Eeeee22895

All you have to do is read their blog as I have and you will see how far-left whacko they are. I've conversed that way with each on many occasions, and have just concluded they aren't very bright. But they weren't hired because they were smart; they were hired because they were liberal ideologues. Their experiences are working on the editorial staff of other leftwing newspapers. Probably have journalism degrees if that. I know the lead editor was a high school dropout before he went to school later. They are inconsistent with their stances depending on the party talked about, they constantly make contradictory posts, and have an amazing ability to infer something from a survey or chart that can't be inferred.

It's fine if you want to call the editorial page "far-left," just please don't confuse that small department of four people who work on a completely separate floor and NEVER step foot in the newsroom as being the whole of The Roanoke Times. It's just not accurate. That's like saying Roanoke's famous neo-Nazi speaks for the whole of the city. Most would argue that he doesn't.

There's only one editorial page editor and only one given rein to channel his opinion -- not a slew of them conspiring together. Editors at the paper really aren't hired based on their ideology. I hope that you're open-minded enough to believe me when I tell you that, because if you're not, this coversation is going to go nowhere.

[Upstate Dave]

So..... back to our regularly scheduled program.

St. Andrews is a standard Catholic church right? Good to know.

I for one find is somewhat distasteful when I hear the terms liberal & conservative & progressive used to describe a church. I am more interested in the message the church is giving, and not an outsiders definition. (kinda like I don't allow people to define my political identity for me).

To be fair, while the terms L & C are evolving, a long established church can evolve to meet the needs of the community without transforming the basic message that they are founded on.

[Eeeee22895]

Originally Posted by PaperTrail

It's fine if you want to call the editorial page "far-left," just please don't confuse that small department of four people who work on a completely separate floor and NEVER step foot in the newsroom as being the whole of The Roanoke Times. It's just not accurate. That's like saying Roanoke's famous neo-Nazi speaks for the whole of the city. Most would argue that he doesn't.

There's only one editorial page editor and only one given rein to channel his opinion -- not a slew of them conspiring together. Editors at the paper really aren't hired based on their ideology. I hope that you're open-minded enough to believe me when I tell you that, because if you're not, this coversation is going to go nowhere.

Yes, of course I'm talking about the editorial staff, but keep in mind the Publisher, the "CEO" is the voice of the paper, and is traditionally a member of the editorial board. So while not every single employee of the Times is a liberal nut, it is customary to identify the politics of a newspaper with those of it's editorial board.

[PaperTrail]

Originally Posted by Eeeee22895

Yes, of course I'm talking about the editorial staff, but keep in mind the Publisher, the "CEO" is the voice of the paper, and is traditionally a member of the editorial board. So while not every single employee of the Times is a liberal nut, it is customary to identify the politics of a newspaper with those of it's editorial board.

Since you kept referring to editors (plural), that was the reason I wanted to make sure you were staying on point regarding the editorials (which has one editor) and not the paper as a whole. And, I could be wrong on this, but the publisher typically doesn't take an active role in penning the editorials but yes, is the one to officially sign off on them.

Keep in mind, too, that The Roanoke Times' news coverage and involvement in the community is a greater part of its "voice" than is the isolated editorial board. To illustrate that, only a month ago the paper trimmed the editorial section down to just one page on many days while making every effort to keep local news coverage (the heart of the paper) and national/international news about the same size. The role of editorials has actually been on the decline.

[nrvcath]

Back to the original topic....Churches in Southwestern VA. If you want to discuss the editorial staff of the Roanoke times-maybe start a new thread?

I think the problem with the Catholic churches in the NRV seems to be a general lack of reverence. As for the hand holding, it is everywhere-have had it in the past two places I have lived. Unfortunately this is more important than the bells during the Consecration-how dare we want to draw our and our children's attention to the CONSECRATION??!! The Mass is no longer focused on Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist, it is all about "community". That is why people stand and talk in the Church loudly like they are at a party, with their backs to our Lord. When you enter a church (not the narthex-which is where you talk, the Church!)you should be solemn and reverent before Our Lord in the tabernacle preparing yourself for Mass or praying after. I don't blame the people who do this, no one has ever taught them any better. It has become such a "custom" that no one dare say anything about-they might loose parishioners (aka money).

As for me, I would love to hear a good kick in the butt homily about Confession, modesty, or time for Our Lord rather than the run of the mill democratic party talking points we have been hearing of late...

As for churches, there are several options and none are convenient, but nevertheless we have options. I have heard of a Mass said by a retired priest outside of Roanoke and there is a great church in Mount Airy, NC just over the VA border.

I'm not speaking to the people on this forum who are happy with the Catholic churches they have found in this area. If they appeal to you and bring you closer to Our Lord-WONDERFUL!! Thats the wonderful thing about our diverse Catholic Church. I am speaking to the people that are distracted or drawn away from Our Lord during these Masses. I think our voices and preferences within the GIRM need to be heard and included in our "big tent" church. As we have seen there are a lot of gray areas....

As far as the Pro-life movement in this area, I think we have seen a good sampling on this board. It is considered too "single issue." Ummm...what is Haiti and Life Teen? Maybe they should be more inclusive of other countries and age groups?(I merely using them as examples--I am sure they do great work!) To me it means read between the lines, we don't support stopping abortion and the killing of innocent babies. I am sure there are many other life issues and just because one group focuses on abortion, doesn't take away from that. It just means this ONE particular group is focusing on stopping abortion-if this upsets you and you consider it too single issue-then volunteer to start a euthanasia committee-it would be welcomed as I am sure your leader is stretched thin to begin with!!!

I have heard of a church in this area that won't allow Life Chain or Forty Days for life to be announced or a sign up for these events to take place after Mass-even though they are approved by the diocese. I think many not involved in this issue don't realize how reluctant and frankly scared priests are to bring up these issues. I would have never believed it until I became more involved. Prayers for our priests are needed!!

I think we should start a yahoo group for Catholics in this area looking for more than is being offered. Maybe we need to start petitioning the diocese. Let me know if you are interested.

[aceadorer]

Please consider Our Lady of Perpetual Help Catholic Church in Salem. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. OLPH also offers Eucharistic Adoration and Benediction on Wednesdays from 3:00 PM to 9:00 PM.