Why are you moving near Rochester?

[WILWRadio]

I guess Jack T. has never visited Chicopee, Holyoke, Lowell and Lawrence, MA. All look like Dresden following World War Two. Never seen anything that bad in NY, at least not yet. Even Elmira looks like an upscale community next to most of the places I just listed.

[Sgoldie]

Newark, NY is about as far from representative of upstate NY as Newark, NJ. As a matter of fact it's uniquely urepresentative of every single rural area I've been in the state, and that's been plenty.

It is a ghetto that has been relocated to the country. I don't know if it was because of farm work or whatever? But I have never seen anyplace in NYS outside of an inner city that looked or felt like Newark. I'd move too.

It's outrageous to characterize any part of NYS based on an assessment of Newark, NY. The difference is like night and day. Trust me, the entire rest of the state is a paradise. Try getting out of town and look around.

[Spartacus]

Guys please ... Big size welcome to a New Yorker

[smalltownusa]

Economy and crime stats aside, the statement that we have no scenery comparable to Ma, VT, NH is just utterly ridiculous...these states all rest in the same path of the glaciers that passed through millions of years ago and their geography, as a result, is similar: mountains, rivers, valleys, gorgeous rock formations, etc....


We have the Adirondacks and Catskills of NY, the White Mountains of NH, the Green Mountains of VT and the Berkshires of MA.

[SUNYPoser]

I don't know much about upstate, the only place I've been to is Plattsburgh, and compared to my hometown in Maryland - it's heaven. The people are ridiculously friendly, crime is minimal and usually petty, if it weren't so cold I'd move there permanently.

[JackT]

Well, I suppose we can all agree to disagree. I suppose that I will just never appreciate N.Y.S. as the rest of you do. And to the people who listed towns and regions that are plesant to visit, I have, indeed, visited many of them, not all, but at least 10 of the ones I read named off. Maybe it is that I need a change of scenery, at least what one poster said some-what agreed with my point, with Newark N.Y. being a run-down town that is not like anywhere else in N.Y.S., apparently. I suppose it's everyone's right to move where they feel, I just say, I can't wait for the day I leave N.Y.S. But if all of you enjoy it, then God Bless and may your positive view on NY never change.

[Pidgett]

Great discussion guys.....

And thanks for the civil tone too!!

I certainly was not aware of the seriously-downtrodden state that Newark NY was in. How sad....Sgoldie, whose posts I have much confidence in, confirms what JackT warns us about. To parrot Sgoldie, it appears that Newark is "uniquely unrepresentative" of the laid-back and peaceful atmosphere that one would normally experience throught the vast majority of rural towns in upstate NY. An anomaly, indeed....

Best of luck to you JackT in your search for a better place to live,

Pidge

[WILWRadio]

Don't move to the Kansas City area. Most of the people are rather ignorant and shallow. California lite. And they don't like people from our neck of the woods. I'll take most of NY State ANY DAY over the Kansas City region.