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02-07-2008, 08:33 PM
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bizjournals: Rankings for major labor markets If Rochester is not like Pittsburgh or Detroit than please explain why Pittsburgh is doing slightly better than rochester in most of these area's. Rochester has very similar data to detroit. So I guess in your eyes it is not a major decline. The only thing currently that detroit is facing a higher forclosure rate than Rochester. Rochester is one of the Highest in New York state and that data includes the suburbs. The data below is just the city data from census 2006 execept the population growth was taken from Moderator cut: linking to competitors sites is not allowed ............Rochester ny ................pitt..................detroit poverty individual/family 24.3/30.1.........14.9/22.2............27/32.5 employment%.....52%...............54.4%........... .......43.2% household inc.....27,407...........31,779................... 28,364 home value........67,600.............76,500............ ....91,700 Vacant hm..........20.3................16.7.............. .....23.0 grad rates...........79.0.................86.3......... ..........75.7 pop. growth......-5.30%...............-6.50............... -8.43 city-data crime index.......711..................562.............. .....1138 Last edited by Yac; 02-14-2008 at 07:07 AM. 
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02-08-2008, 08:16 AM
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You mention a major decline then you provide data from only a five year span. If you want to look at a major decline you would need several years of comparison. And if you go back a couple of decades Pittsburgh has had a much larger decline. Last edited by Yac; 02-14-2008 at 07:06 AM.
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02-08-2008, 12:31 PM
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Can we just concede that Rochester's job numbers will always look poor in any comparison mostly because of Kodak, Xerox, and B&L and be done with it? Sure, that does affect the community as a whole, but it is a fairly unique situation that cannot be truly compared with other areas broadly. If anything, Rochester is stronger now because of the number of small businesses and dispersal of jobs across many industries and doesn't have "all its eggs in one basket" so to speak. Other than the older folks in every local family that speaks of the good ole days working at Kodak, that is not a true gauge of life in Rochester because most people here are no longer dependent the "Big 3" or the various companies that sprouted up supporting those 3.
http://www.rochesterbiz.com/Data/Top...d%209-6-06.pdf Last edited by rochacha; 02-08-2008 at 12:39 PM. Reason: Added Reference
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02-08-2008, 12:34 PM
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Wow, those statistics look bad. Why would anyone want to live here? Oh yeah, I remember....
Business Best Quality of Life Ranking • The Rochester Region was ranked #1 for Overall Quality of Life among metros with a population of more than 1 million. Source: Expansion Management, May/June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Star Business Opportunity Metro • Expansion Management magazine ranked Rochester as a 5-Star Business Opportunity Metro, a premier place for companies to do business in America. Expansion Management, August 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "World Knowledge Competitiveness" • Ranked 9th for "World Knowledge Competitiveness." World Knowledge Competitiveness Index 2005, Robert Huggins Associates -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technology "Most Unwired Cities" • Ranked 67th in Intel's "Most Unwired Cities" survey that ranks the Top 100 U.S. cities and regions with the greatest wireless Internet accessibility. Intel, 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the Top 20 Tech Cities in the U.S. • Popular Science ranks Rochester 19th of 140 metropolitan areas in the magazine's "Top Tech cities" rankings. Popular Science, March 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Overall Innovation Capacity" • Ranked 5th for "Overall Innovation Capacity" upon the basis of 1. Jobs in high-tech industries 2. Degrees granted in science and engineering 3. Number of patents 4. Academic research and development funding 5. Venture capital invested. Metropolitan New Economy Index: Benchmarking Economic Transformation in the Nation's Metropolitan Areas, 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranked 1st among 125 for Patent Registration • Ranked 1st among 125 world regions for Patent Registration. World Knowledge Competitiveness Index 2003-2004: Benchmarking the Globe's Leading Knowledge Economy Regions, Robert Huggins Business and Economic Policy Press -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranked 1st for Utility Patents Issued • Ranked 1st for Utility Patents Issued to Companies or Individuals per 1,000 Workers. Rochester boasts 2.33 patents per 1,000 workers - the U.S. average is only 0.40 patents per 1,000 workers. Metropolitan New Economy Index: Benchmarking Economic Transformation in the Nation's Metropolitan Area, 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Top 40 U.S. Biotech Locations" • Ranked 26th among the "Top 40 U.S. Biotech Locations." Business Facilities: The Location Advisor, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Education "Ranked #6 Nationally Among Large Sized Metros" • "Rochester, NY, Metro Area Public Schools Ranked #6 Nationally Among Large Sized Metros." Expansion Management, December 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "America's Best Colleges" and "America's Best Graduate Schools" • There are multiple rankings within "America's Best Colleges" and "America's Best Graduate Schools" for our area universities and their academic programs. US News and World Report, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Best Places with Best Education" • Ranked 6th for "Best Places with Best Education," upon the basis of both Education AND Place criteria. Forbes, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- College student population exceeds 80,000 • College student population exceeds 80,000; confer about 15,000 degrees annually. NYSED Office of Research and Information Systems, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home to Two of the Best Public High Schools in America • Two of the Rochester area public high schools ranked in "The 100 Best High Schools in America." (Brighton #87, and Pittsford Mendon #94) Newsweek, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eastman School of Music ranks 1st • Eastman School of Music ranks 1st in the nation for its graduate music programs "America's Best Colleges." US News and Report, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life sciences degrees • Ranked 3rd for the number of college graduates with life sciences degrees per capita U.S. Department of Education, 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranked 6th among metro areas • Ranked 6th among metro areas for degrees granted in science and engineering. Metropolitan New Economy Index, 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranked 6th among 354 • Ranked 6th among 354 metros areas for Education. Places Rated Almanac, 2000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RIT has been ranked 1st or 2nd for past 20 years • RIT has been ranked 1st or 2nd for "Academic Reputation" by peer assessment among regional universities in the North for the past 20 years. "America's Best Colleges," US News and World Report, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sciences/Technology related degrees account for 32.7% • Sciences/Technology related degrees account for 32.7% of all degree conferment in 2002, and Business Management and Administrative Services accounts for 25.4%. NYSED Office of Research and Information Systems, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The University of Rochester's School of Medicine and Dentistry • The University of Rochester's School of Medicine and Dentistry ranks among the "Top 50 U.S. Research Medical Schools." It is among the top 10% of medical schools for primary care, and the top 25% of U.S. medical schools. "America's Best Graduate Schools," US News and World Reports, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Top 100 Entrepreneurial Colleges" • The University of Rochester was ranked among the Top 25 for Entrepreneurial Emphasis in the "Top 100 Entrepreneurial Colleges." Entrepreneur Magazine, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William E. Simon Graduate School of Business Administration • William E. Simon Graduate School of Business Administration is consistently ranked as a world leader among graduate business schools by Business Week, U.S. News & World Report. The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times and Forbes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Living and Culture "10 Best Cities to Raise a Family" • Ranked 7th among the "10 Best Cities to Raise a Family" based on pediatric health characteristics and services, cost of living, economic strength, quality of life, education and environmental quality criteria. Child Magazine, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best Quality of Life Ranking • The Rochester Region was recently ranked #1 for Overall Quality of Life among metros with a population of more than 1 million. Source: Expansion Management, May/June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For women's health, Rochester area ranks 12th best • The Rochester metro area is the 12th healthiest place for women among the 100 biggest metro areas nationwide, according to the December 2007 issue of Self magazine. This ranking is based on 52 categories of data including exercise and eating habits, rates of heart disease, depression and crime. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Named 6th most livable city in the U.S. • "Rochester named 6th most livable city in the U.S." Places Rated Almanac 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Affordable Homes • At $117,200, the median home sales price is 47.6% lower than the national average. And 78.2% of area homes are affordable for our region's median income. National Association of Realtors (Q2, 2007), NAHB Housing Opportunity Index (Q2, 2007) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Easy Commute Time -- Under 20 Minutes • Average daily commute time of 19.7 minutes - Monroe County, NY. US Census, 2006 American Community Survey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Least Congested Freeway Lane Miles • Ranked 3rd among 25 peer cities for Least Congested Freeway Lane Miles. TTI Urban Mobility Report, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oak Hill Country Club • Oak Hill Country Club was ranked 10th among "America's 100 Greatest Golf Courses." Golf Digest, May 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranked 2nd safest metro region among 25 • Ranked 2nd safest metro region among 25 peer cities for violent crimes per 100,000 persons. FBI Uniform Crime Report, 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ranked 4th safest metro region among 25 • Ranked 4th safest metro region among 25 peer cities for property crimes per 100,000 persons. FBI Uniform Crime Report, 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester is one of the cleanest cities in America • Reader's Digest recently rated Rochester as the 7th cleanest city in America. Reader's Digest, July 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester (Finger Lakes) 10 Best places to Vacation • Rated as a Top 10 "Perfect Place," Money magazine states "Everywhere land meets water, vacation activities are plentiful." Money Magazine, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Top 50 cities in America • Richard Florida's National Best Seller book titled, "The Rise of the Creative Class: and how it's transforming work, leisure, community and every day life" ranks the Top 50 cities in America where the most creative people live. Rochester ranked 4th in innovation, and earned an overall creative ranking of 25th. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Health "Healthiest City for Men" • Ranked the 3rd "Healthiest City for Men" upon the basis of health, environment, and fitness. Men's Health Magazine, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Least Stressful City" • Ranked 11th among 100 Metro Areas for "Least Stressful City". Sperling Stress Index criteria includes: unemployment rate, divorce rate, commute time, violent and property crime rates, suicide rate, alcohol consumption, self-reported "poor mental health", and number of cloudy days. Sperlings's Best Places, 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "One of America's Best Hospitals in the Nation" • Strong Memorial Hospital, consistently recognized in U.S. News and Reports as "One of America's Best Hospitals in the Nation," is widely known for its cardiac care. It operates the only heart transplant program in Western New York and is also nationally recognized for neurosurgery, urology, gynecology, cancer and pediatric specialties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester General Hospital is New York's 4th largest cardiac center • Rochester General Hospital is New York's 4th largest cardiac center and is a leading provider of cancer treatment. It was one of only two hospitals in New York State named a "Solucient Top 100 Heart Hospital" in 2003. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Recreation Best Minor League Sports Market In America • Rochester, NY was rated the best minor league sports market in America by Street & Smith's Sports Business Journal, July 2005. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester Named One of the 10 Best Golf Cities in America • Golf Magazine and the National Golf Foundation named Rochester one of the 10 Best Golf Cities in America. (Golf Magazine, Nov. 2007) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strong Museum top 10 ranking • The Strong Museum is ranked as one of the top 10 Children's Museums in the nation, Child Magazine. It is also home to the National Toy Hall of Fame. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We have more golf holes • We have more golf holes per capita than any other industrial city in the northeast. The Rochester area has more than 95 golf courses and that number increases yearly (23 private; 65 public & semi-private; and 9 Executive / Par 3 courses. Golf Rochester Guide 2003
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02-08-2008, 02:44 PM
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And finally off the topic. Next time you post you should reference other peoples work plagiarism is frowned upon. I will be nice enough to reference it for you. Rochester, NY | Rochester Rankings | Greater Rochester Enterprise Look at where the article is coming from a bias group to pitch rochester to people that have never been here.
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02-08-2008, 04:26 PM
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PLEASE don't repost an entire long post.
I would like to weigh in as a current resident-- stats be da**ed. I love it here and grew up in the Boston area and spent several years in Atlanta. I live in a nice part of the city in a 100 year old home. I can easily walk to any number of really good ethnic restaurants or music venues and yet I can also walk into the woods-- no kidding. We have tons of first rate free classical music thanks to the Eastman School, a nationally acclaimed jazz fest, an annual film fest, two independent movie houses, a first rate symphony orchestra, an amazing supermarket chain, emulated everywhere. I send my kids to an abutting suburban school district that is routinely rated among the top in the nation and I cannot get over the number of bright, wholesome kids from educated families my kids count among their friends. One daughter is into animation and there is actually a studio in town for her to take lessons; the other is into musical theater and again, we have audition opportunities galore and an embarrassment of riches when it comes to vocal coaches. What I really love about Rochester is that there is a wealth of cultural opportunities without the parking problems I encountered in larger cities. After many years here, I am still meeting new people yet always run into friends around town- I have a strong sense of community. I love to Xcountry ski and there are many public parks with groomed trails around ponds and through the woods within a 10-20 minute drive. We are left-leaning and find this to be a very politically aware and progressive community ensconced in a moderate Republican region. There is a very lively local folk music scene that my husband participates in. We have an active organic and local food scene here and a coop. Downers: If you don't like gray skies, it would be intolerable here from November to February or March. Layoffs: I personally have been directly and painfully impacted by "downsizing" but I view this as a corporate issue, not a city issue. Crime: In the 17 years I have lived here,not even once have we been effected by any crime at all- not thefts, not break-ins, nothing. I often leave my house unlocked. HOWEVER, I am middle class in a region that has the highest childhood poverty rate and homicide rate in the state. To be among the urban poor in this city is a whole other life-- this city is definitely segregated by class. The thing about Rochester which is really different from my experiences in Boston and Atlanta is that you really do inhabit the whole county. You can't just quote stats for the city and capture what it feels like to live here. The city schools are really struggling, but there are isolated pockets within the district that are functioning well, and the neighboring community school districts are fantastic. People identify themselves as from "Rochester" when they live in any of the towns within the county. On a given day, I may have been through four or five different towns as well as the city as I go about my business, working, shopping and socializing. Anyway, I don't really get why people are warring on this thread. There is a lot to like here and a lot not to like here. It all depends upon what you are looking for. But in no way do statistics really capture everyday moment by moment experience. Note: Just realized the OP long ago took a job in White Plains! Oops! Last edited by Jansu; 02-08-2008 at 04:45 PM.
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02-08-2008, 11:03 PM
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 Off topic, I am flattered that you think I could have pulled all of those rankings off the top of my head. Sorry for the confusion that it was cut and pasted.
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02-09-2008, 10:58 AM
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Below is a webpage that has some rankings of cities environments. The research is by our government agencies. When government agencies are saying the place has problems I tend to agree with them more because it is scientific research and not unscientific rankings that you have shown. The comparison that I made of the three cities was not spin , it was data taken from the census and the crime rate was from city data. I asked the reader to tell me what they thought. facts
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02-09-2008, 02:56 PM
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My husband and I are planning to move to Rochester from CA. Does anyone know what the salaries and job opportunities for a high school math teacher are. Also, I have children and pets. What suburb of Rochester would have decent schools and more space for our dogs. CA homes are all right on top of each other and life is just too hectic. I grew up in CA, but lived on the east coast for about 15 years. My daughter lived in the Rochester area and we loved it each time we came to visit. Any help would be appreciated.
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02-09-2008, 03:27 PM
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