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Look! The OP is asking for opinions. He didn't just ask for yours, gt87. I already suggested that he avoid certain sections... and I included an established crime map with statistics. I never compared Rochester to the south side of Chicago. WTF is the matter with you? I gave the OP MY opinion on what it was like for ME to live in Rochester. Both my husband and I hated it there, so we moved. You have a different view, gt87? Great! Share it without calling differing opinions "exaggerations".
Did you not see where I said, "in my opinion"? It's not that serious dude.
We left Rochester NY because of the high crime. There's a daily mugging, shooting, murder in parts of Rochester. Drug activity prevails. There are areas where you can't walk down the street after dark, much less sit on your own front porch. Houses are cheap in those areas. Avoid the inner city... Joseph Ave, Norton, Clinton, all the sides streets and surrounding areas.
I don't know anything about NJ, so I can't compare it.
Oh please. Rochester's crime is no different than any other sized city. I've never once heard anybody I know say they had to move away to escape crime or that they couldn't sit on their porch because of muggings and shootings.
Where exactly did you live that crime was so bad? Was it literally in the worst part of the city? And where did you move to? Was it outside of the city?
All cities have their bad areas. That should be a given. No reason the leave the area entirely. Just move to a better neighborhood. Or, you could stay and be a beacon of positivity. I'm sure that not every one of your neighbors were criminals. The good people in the neighborhood need to stand up together and take back the neighborhoods.
This is a thread about downtown, anyway. Downtown is safe. I know people who live downtown and love it.
Many people have different definitions for "downtown" and "inner city". I think for most of us it would be the area generally covered by the inner loop, but others maybe refer to the entire city that way. To me "downtown" is perfectly safe.
Many people have different definitions for "downtown" and "inner city". I think for most of us it would be the area generally covered by the inner loop, but others maybe refer to the entire city that way. To me "downtown" is perfectly safe.
I haven't been downtown in a couple years. Most US cities are seeing a rebirth in a lot of ways, so I'm assuming that downtown Rochester is improving. The big problem is usually in the evenings. Unless there's a residential population density of around 20 - 30,000 ppsm (at least), I find that sidewalks empty out in many places (except outside bars...until 2am).
That being said, how is downtown Rochester during weekends and evenings.
I haven't been downtown in a couple years. Most US cities are seeing a rebirth in a lot of ways, so I'm assuming that downtown Rochester is improving. The big problem is usually in the evenings. Unless there's a residential population density of around 20 - 30,000 ppsm (at least), I find that sidewalks empty out in many places (except outside bars...until 2am).
That being said, how is downtown Rochester during weekends and evenings.
I would consider it fine. I am downtown at least once a week during the evening, more so in the winter going to the BCA for sporting events, and have been doing so for at least 10 years. I have never had an issue aside from the occasional person on East Ave asking for money. I can understand how someone who is downtown less often may even see something like that as a reason to not go down there, but it's easy enough to say "Sorry, I can't help you today" and keep walking.
As far as population goes, the residential population downtown has been growing steadily for years and I would guess is around 7,000 or so right now which is not bad for a smaller downtown like Rochester's. It is also due to add another couple thousand in the next year or two which should lead to even more general activity on the sidewalks especially on Main St near East.
I understand the empty sidewalks thing, but I have never felt unsafe downtown.
I would consider it fine. I am downtown at least once a week during the evening, more so in the winter going to the BCA for sporting events, and have been doing so for at least 10 years. I have never had an issue aside from the occasional person on East Ave asking for money. I can understand how someone who is downtown less often may even see something like that as a reason to not go down there, but it's easy enough to say "Sorry, I can't help you today" and keep walking.
As far as population goes, the residential population downtown has been growing steadily for years and I would guess is around 7,000 or so right now which is not bad for a smaller downtown like Rochester's. It is also due to add another couple thousand in the next year or two which should lead to even more general activity on the sidewalks especially on Main St near East.
I understand the empty sidewalks thing, but I have never felt unsafe downtown.
I live in South Philly and work in Center City, so seeing homeless people or folks asking for money isn't so much a concern to me (although some folks can be very aggressive, but that's a less common situation). Nothing is scarier to me than being the only person on a street in the dark. It just takes the wrong person to turn the corner and have his eyes fixate on you and the situation changes quickly. There are parts of Center City I stay away from for this exact reason.
But I also know what you're saying. I'm thrilled to hear that Downtown Rochester is improving. I love going to the Genesee Brewery in High Falls. There are some beautiful views in downtown for sure.
Downtown Roc is improving but just barely. I wouldn't personally call it "improvement" at all, only that it seems to have stopped deteriorating. Roc hasn't seem much of urban revival, and I wouldn't count on it.
Downtown Roc is improving but just barely. I wouldn't personally call it "improvement" at all, only that it seems to have stopped deteriorating. Roc hasn't seem much of urban revival, and I wouldn't count on it.
huh? Filling up an empty 18 story tower (Tower 280) with high end apartments is "barely" improving? Along with the other 857 million in the pipeline on projects right now? Yeah, I wouldn't count on any urban renewal with so many projects going forward right now and 857 million in investment.
huh? Filling up an empty 18 story tower (Tower 280) with high end apartments is "barely" improving? Along with the other 857 million in the pipeline on projects right now? Yeah, I wouldn't count on any urban renewal with so many projects going forward right now and 857 million in investment.
Yeah, let's cherry pick the data and decide how Roc is doing based on a single building, and ignore the obvious fact that Roc has been decaying for well over half a century, and continues to lag the country. This is no fault of Roc, and is part of the general trend of decay for upstate NY and other parts of the country like upstate as a whole. There is absolutely no way for Roc to get out of this trap any time in the foreseeable future. No building and no amount of investment will change that.
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