What's Up with the Segregation Here? (New York, Rochester: home, neighborhoods, high school)

[Salmanal]

I just moved here from El Paso, TX. I am very surprised that a very uneducated city can be more open-minded than a city with many learning institutions.

One cannot pretend it doesn't exist, it's in your face. It seems the neighborhoods are ethnically separated as well too.

I lived in Boston 13 years ago, and felt I'd be done with that mentality.

Overall, I'm still happy here, I'll find my niche soon enough; but, where does a deaf, Native American, Muslim fit? Just kidding, I communicate in 7 different languages when speaking; answer, not in America. I'll try to get accustomed, and enjoy the positives offered in this city.

[garmin239]

For a northeastern city, its more intergrated. But in general the north is segregated compared to the south. Its an older city thing.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Salmanal

I just moved here from El Paso, TX. I am very surprised that a very uneducated city can be more open-minded than a city with many learning institutions.

One cannot pretend it doesn't exist, it's in your face. It seems the neighborhoods are ethnically separated as well too.

I lived in Boston 13 years ago, and felt I'd be done with that mentality.

Overall, I'm still happy here, I'll find my niche soon enough; but, where does a deaf, Native American, Muslim fit? Just kidding, I communicate in 7 different languages when speaking; answer, not in America. I'll try to get accustomed, and enjoy the positives offered in this city.

In the Northeast, there are still ethnic neighborhoods in many cities. So, a lot of the segregation isn't necessarily racial or just racial, but ethnic to some degree as well. It has broken down quite a bit, but you still can notice it.

As for the deaf community, Rochester has a big one and I think some institutions like RIT has deaf programs. This should help as well: Welcome to RRCD the Hub of the Deaf Community
Rochester School for the Deaf - Home Page
Deaf community is diverse | democratandchronicle.com | Democrat and Chronicle
Deaf in Rochester - Deaf People in Rochester, New York

[cheese9988]

Depends on what neighborhood you live in too, some are better than others. I know the city a whole lot better than the suburbs.

[IRONSHIRT]

Originally Posted by cheese9988

Depends on what neighborhood you live in too, some are better than others. I know the city a whole lot better than the suburbs.

I knew a number of Whites who lived in the 19th Ward and many of their suburban co-workers were mortified that they would live among "those people" as they so fondly call them.

Most of their White co-workers wouldnt even come to their cookouts when invited. Ignorance and fear are terrible things.

[IRONSHIRT]

Originally Posted by cheese9988

Depends on what neighborhood you live in too, some are better than others. I know the city a whole lot better than the suburbs.

East High used to be a place where Black and White students from the city would mix pretty well. I have a number of friends who attended.

[cheese9988]

Originally Posted by IRONSHIRT

East High used to be a place where Black and White students from the city would mix pretty well. I have a number of friends who attended.

I'm within walking distance of there. I don't know about the high school, but the neighborhood is mixed. Beechwood on one side is almost all African American, Browncroft is almost all white on the other side. So I guess Culver-Winton, is the median between the two.

[cheese9988]

Originally Posted by IRONSHIRT

I knew a number of Whites who lived in the 19th Ward and many of their suburban co-workers were mortified that they would live among "those people" as they so fondly call them.

Most of their White co-workers wouldnt even come to their cookouts when invited. Ignorance and fear are terrible things.

And thats the screwed up part. "Those people" are just as intelligent as you and me. Our neighbors have a couple kids, and they are probably the best behaved that I have seen in awhile. The mother says something, and those kids come running, no questions asked. Beats alot of the Paris Hilton want-to-be kids.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by IRONSHIRT

East High used to be a place where Black and White students from the city would mix pretty well. I have a number of friends who attended.

I'm surprised that East High isn't more mixed. I would think it would be considering where it is located. It probably was about 20 years ago, but not as much now. It's still about 12% White, but it seems low for that part of town. Here's the demographics of the school over the years: East High School, Rochester New York / NY school information and ethnic makeup

I believe SOTA, Charlotte and Jefferson still have a decent amount of White students. For the suburbs, Gates-Chili, Rush-Henrietta, Eastridge, Brighton and the Greece HS's are relatively mixed.

Here in Syracuse, even with a recent wave of "White Flight"(and flight of some others), the HS's have White percentages of 25%, 30%, 31% and 46%. So, all of them still have a good amount of White students.

[cheese9988]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I'm surprised that East High isn't more mixed. I would think it would be considering where it is located. It probably was about 20 years ago, but not as much now. It's still about 12% White, but it seems low for that part of town. Here's the demographics of the school over the years: East High School, Rochester New York / NY school information and ethnic makeup

Here in Syracuse, even with a recent wave of "White Flight"(and flight of some others), the HS's have White percentages of 25%, 30%, 31% and 46%. So, all of them still have a good amount of White students.

Wow, I'm surprised that it is that low. That is a big high school, would have though it would serve most of the east side of the city. I wonder what the percentages are from neighborhood to neighborhood?