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Old 07-23-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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Can anyone suggest the best places to live away from cities, close to small towns, in states that that support constitutional rights, great place for farming, or even growing my own fruits and veggies in a little garden, homeschooling is not creepy to people, and so on? In the west half of us from Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Idaho...We are looking to buy land in rural areas to build a log home and grow our own food and live in an area of friendly people that welcome newcomers from the city life that want to live simply. with the way things are going, we are looking for a place to live that is full of people that aren't "sheeple" and will fight for their rights among other things. Free states with Libertarians and people that care about people. We are looking to live around real men and women that love the slow, hardworking country life. Will be "living off grid" so places with good amounts of rain and successful environment for sustainable living, and land that isn't very expensive.

Thanks for all your help!
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: In The Outland
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That's a tall order. You may have to make some compromises to get what you want at what I would consider not very expensive. Of coarse "expensive" means different things to different people. A lot of people seem to be looking for the same things in an area to move to, so folks are digging in on their lowest price. Good luck to you.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:47 PM
 
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Can anyone suggest the best places to live away from cities, close to small towns, in states that that support constitutional rights, great place for farming, or even growing my own fruits and veggies in a little garden, homeschooling is not creepy to people, and so on? In the west half of us from Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Idaho...We are looking to buy land in rural areas to build a log home and grow our own food and live in an area of friendly people that welcome newcomers from the city life that want to live simply. with the way things are going, we are looking for a place to live that is full of people that aren't "sheeple" and will fight for their rights among other things. Free states with Libertarians and people that care about people. We are looking to live around real men and women that love the slow, hardworking country life. Will be "living off grid" so places with good amounts of rain and successful environment for sustainable living, and land that isn't very expensive.

Thanks for all your help!
Water scarcity is the problem there,bad and getting worse.
IMHO place most like that is UP of MI,libertarians are pretty scarce in rural areas in general and the Ayn Rand variety ain't big on helping others.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:51 PM
 
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Several farms for sale by me.

$700,000 for a 155 acre farm 2 miles south of me.
$530,000 for a 145 acre farm 6 miles east of me.

Both have good land, a good house and older buildings in good shape.

This spring a guy 6 miles west of me sold 65 acres of bare cropland to a neighbor for $4,000 per acre.

central Minnesota.
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Old 08-01-2010, 04:11 AM
 
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Growing season, water and decent soil. Draw a line from the Atlantic Ocaan to the Pacific Ocean that goes through the mid-section of Illinois and you will have the growing season. MO and AR have a lot of mountainous soil with clay and hardpan. I know the states between the MIssissippi to the Pacific Ocean south of 1-40 pretty well, and I know the weather because I lved there for a number of years.

I'd look around Grand Lake in NE OK. There are patches of rocky soil, but it can be overcome. You have four seasonswith a long growing season and water access. Homeschooling is no more of an issue than is a log cabin. The only resricion in Delaware County is NO septic on less than 3/4 acre and it must pass a Perk test before you can install a septic. If stay on the South side the utilities are cheaper becuase it is rural electric coop .... but. you have to stay N of Zena because of the storms - unless you have an underground shelter. The closer you get to Grove, the more expensive the land. The good news is the Lake is 60 MILES long. There is lot of land between Grove and the dam at Langley.

Hot Springs. AR might be a possibility as water literal pours out of the mountain...but, I don't know the sourse. It is the best driming water I had in years. .It isn't processed so it doesn't keep well. They have a lot of illegal dog and rooster fights, so I dought that anything you do will be objectionable. Once you get past OKC the land turns to red clay and then sand all the way to CA.
It is good growing for pecan trees, cotton and peppers, but water is big issue. It is parcelled by the day of the week. The mountains are coool to bitter cold all the time.

You might like the land between US54 at Louisinana, MO to about Sullivan. Not too far West of it you start into the Ozark Mountains. Hermann might not be too bad. IT is in he bottom of a valley. They have a couple of winers which means they can grow grapes and you should still have a long growing season. I don't know about water. You could find something between I-70 and Lake of The Ozarks - but you are in the Ozark Mountain range. Unlesss you get lucky or get around Mexico, MO you will probably fight the land. I like Troy, MO.*There is also some afully pretty ground between Grove OK south of Jay to 412, but you're in rolling hills and I'n not sure of the water source as some of those lake (not Grand) that are fed by the City of Tulsa; it might be dicey.

I don't know how taxes are, but the area between PIttsfield, IL (US 54 begins) and the Missippi River is good growing land, too, but I don't know the water source unless it is aquafer.

In case you should wonder why I think this is these area have green lawns, green parks, mature trees and flowers like Day Lilies that are difficult to grow in soil that has a lot of clay and hardpan.

I think you might like the Grove area because it is beautiful and the people are friendly. If you want a truly large town you'll drive from 50 -150 miles to get there. Grove has a very decent hospital and an awespme Cardiologist. The cops are as much tourist guide as they are law enforcement. It is a really decent area.*There has been an influx of retirees so another new face won't freak any one. Because it the Native State I Never met anyone who cared much about whether or not you were liberal or worshiped an owl in a tree. It only get fractious when it gets close to national elections. OK IS a Red state, but I will tell you I met more than a few Blud voters. In rhis respect it is much like Illinois.
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Old 08-01-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Several farms for sale by me.
$700,000 for a 155 acre farm 2 miles south of me.
$530,000 for a 145 acre farm 6 miles east of me.
Both have good land, a good house and older buildings in good shape.
This spring a guy 6 miles west of me sold 65 acres of bare cropland to a neighbor for $4,000 per acre.
central Minnesota.
Incredible! It seems they are reduced to giving away these properties. Are these prices considerably lower than they would have been three years ago (due to the economic meltdown)?
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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Incredible! It seems they are reduced to giving away these properties. Are these prices considerably lower than they would have been three years ago (due to the economic meltdown)?
No.

The price used to be $3,000 per acre for good tillable land ( 40 acres or more)

That $4,000 per acre price shocked a few of us locals.
It was a case of location. The farmer that bought it has 300 dairy cows and lives only a mile away.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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To the OP, two considerations in the states you mentioned--water scarcity (as Big Cur already said) and elevation.
Much of both states are at elevations high enough to make growing a variety of food to feed yourself problematic--short growing seasons, unpredictable weather. There is low elevation property, but just want you to be sure you know elevation is a consideration.
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Old 08-01-2010, 01:04 PM
 
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Can anyone suggest the best places to live away from cities, close to small towns, in states that that support constitutional rights, great place for farming, or even growing my own fruits and veggies in a little garden, homeschooling is not creepy to people, and so on? In the west half of us from Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Idaho...We are looking to buy land in rural areas to build a log home and grow our own food and live in an area of friendly people that welcome newcomers from the city life that want to live simply. with the way things are going, we are looking for a place to live that is full of people that aren't "sheeple" and will fight for their rights among other things. Free states with Libertarians and people that care about people. We are looking to live around real men and women that love the slow, hardworking country life. Will be "living off grid" so places with good amounts of rain and successful environment for sustainable living, and land that isn't very expensive.

Thanks for all your help!
If you hadn't limited yourself to a few states, I would have suggested New Hampshire or Vermont. They fit all of your criteria beyond the self-imposed geographic limits.
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Incredible! It seems they are reduced to giving away these properties. Are these prices considerably lower than they would have been three years ago (due to the economic meltdown)?
These are prices reflecting the tremendous - and apparently continuing - inflation in agricultural land prices over the last five years. If you think these prices are low for central Minnesota, you better do some research by reviewing listings with local agents or with national/regional firms of good repute. [United Farm Agency or Farmers National Company come to mind as regards the latter.]

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