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Old 08-30-2010, 09:25 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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Is that your apples and oranges?
No, I was just saying that the broadcast strength in itself is comparable, just measured differently.



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Ooops that could do it. Our roof is 14 foot high, with a 10 foot mast and antenna. So our antenna is only at 24 foot. Zoning here does not allow us to go higher than the surrounding tree line which is mostly at 40-foot.
The Telecommunications act of 1996 is preemptive and prevents local zoning from prohibiting you from getting a signal.

Telecom Act '96 (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/top/publicationmedia/newsltr/telcom_act.htm - broken link)

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Satellite Television Antennas: The Act required the FCC to issue regulations to prohibit local governments, community associations, landlords, and so forth, from restricting a viewer's ability to receive video programming services through devices designed for over-the-air reception of television broadcast signals, multichannel multipoint distribution service, or direct broadcast satellite services. Although the FCC has issued its rules, the prohibition does not extend, however, to commonly-owned property such as condominium balconies.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Yes of course 10% of a signal as compared to 100% of signal is comparable.

You see analog is a type of thing that you only need a small bit of and it still works. Digital packets though, if you miss even the smallest bit, you have missed it all.

I am not saying that our state would deny me building a tower, rather that I did look into it, and there are permits with requirements for lighting.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:28 AM
 
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How many feet high before lighting is mandatory?

We have many 70ft silos near me and there are no lights on them.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I was told that when you go above 40-foot [the average height of surrounding trees] that you need lights.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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For both our small town rental in Tennessee, and our current home in small metro NW Florida, we couldn't get an antenna signal even during the analog days so the digital switch didn't really have any impact on us.

You probably couldn't build a 70 foot tower where I live. The Air Force does all kind of weird testing in the area and they've got an effective 60 foot from sea level height limit on all structures.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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How many feet high before lighting is mandatory?

We have many 70ft silos near me and there are no lights on them.
The FAA requires you to put lights on your tower if it exceeds 200 feet in height. Hence many 180 or 190-foot ham radio towers.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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The FAA requires you to put lights on your tower if it exceeds 200 feet in height. Hence many 180 or 190-foot ham radio towers.
Thank you for that info.

I knew a --40 foot limit--sounded quite far fetched.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Cut the crap and the cable. Satellite is the way to go, now and into the future. When the weather cuts out our HD feed , I go over to the non HD channel and I get reception just fine. It takes a really big storm to cut all signals, very rare.
We have 400 amp electric up our Mountian , thats it.( was expensive install). Everything else is wireless, including Internet services, which we use an air card for phones ( business and personal) along with the Net. Works well, better than the cable we had in town. DSL was not much better ether.
... However , how i long for the old days when my 10" dish did it all, even during a blizzard., and it was free !
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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Got DISH out here in rural central Minnesota.

We only lose a signal in a severe thunderstorm and then only for a few minutes.

Their customer service is terriffic !

You get to talk to a real person and they will patiently " walk you" through whatever problem you have for as long as it takes.

Great company to do business with !
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Do any of you get TV out there without cable or satellite?

Since I will need to be prepared for anything in the backwoods, I am opting for free TV.

How do y'all get TV now that the FCC shut down the analog over-the-air broadcasting? A lifetime RVer told me those HD/digital TV antennas are a sham and it's not like what it used to be. If the reception was lousy, the screen would be blank while the analog version would have that old charming fuzzy effect. Said distance isn't what it used to be, either.

I need to watch reports and local news. Is satellite the only choice?
I don't have a television. I get my news from the internet and radio. Trust me when I say that your life will be infinitely better without it.

20yrisnBranson
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